Summoner Needs to be buffed

[MaelleRiou]

Mainly that mobility has never been the main factor that affects the measurement of a job's personal DPS, but rather party utility.

Yes, it does. That's why machinist is always behind samurai and black mage, the other 2 selfish DPS jobs. If mobility isn't the factor then what is?

[Easayia]

given summoners cast times are basically way quicker now its basically a ranged DPS so because more movement just like the others DPS loss should be an expected outcome.

[CKNovel]

Remember when everyone asked for a nerf of SMN during ShB.
They took months if not a year before nerfing it by a mere 50 potency, which made it remain among the best DPS, just below SAM and MNK.

The "mobility argument" was always flawed from the start. E8S was the most mobile tier and physical ranged did not shined, it was the casters who shined.

If the chart is like this, it's because SQEX decided so. I made my peace with SQEX balancing and SMN will probably get a DPS buff that will once again throw the logic of balancing to the trash can.
And of course be ready for the SMN main whining that they deserve that buff because they have 4 casts per minutes.

[ThorneDynasty]

Remember when everyone asked for a nerf of SMN during ShB.
They took months if not a year before nerfing it by a mere 50 potency, which made it remain among the best DPS, just below SAM and MNK.

The "mobility argument" was always flawed from the start. E8S was the most mobile tier and physical ranged did not shined, it was the casters who shined.

If the chart is like this, it's because SQEX decided so. I made my peace with SQEX balancing and SMN will probably get a DPS buff that will once again throw the logic of balancing to the trash can.
And of course be ready for the SMN main whining that they deserve that buff because they have 4 casts per minutes.

Honestly when you look at a trait like Enhanced Unmend you have to wonder if SE is hugely overvaluing mobility for some reason.

Other than that I honestly can't think of any other reason for ranged physical doing less damage than skill based balancing, as much as there's insistence they would never. Don't have to worry about uptime positioning, positionals or cast times, so less damage too I guess.

[Sunako]

RDM is overpowered now. RDM needs either nerfed to SMN level or BLM and SMN both need to be buffed. Because BLM does 2% more than RDM, nobody is gonna use that zero utility caster.

[rewd]

My mistake then. At least that puts it closer to Arcane Crest but still not better. Frankly, Crest needs to either lose the Cure potency or have its CD doubled. It's a bit silly how they essentially made it a better version of Shadeshift but on a fourth of the CD.

I hope they don't remove the regen or nerf it because it makes the skill very fun and rewarding to use. The CD needs to be increased, but a 60s CD would still be too strong imo.

A 90-120s range would be more appropriate, I think. Maybe increase the duration of the shield, so it's not too punishing.

[Daralii]

I hope they don't remove the regen or nerf it because it makes the skill very fun and rewarding to use. The CD needs to be increased, but a 60s CD would still be too strong imo.

A 90-120s range would be more appropriate, I think. Maybe increase the duration of the shield, so it's not too punishing.

Just make the heal personal, remove the group-wide component entirely, and it's on par with Third Eye.

[Duskane]

RDM is overpowered now. RDM needs either nerfed to SMN level or BLM and SMN both need to be buffed. Because BLM does 2% more than RDM, nobody is gonna use that zero utility caster.

I think RDM is fine where it is
everything besides MNK and RPR need a buff

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

I think RDM is fine where it is
everything besides MNK and RPR need a buff

Powercreep would like a word with you. Let's not trivialize content by making everything more powerful than the already broken op Monk and Reaper.

[Duskane]

Powercreep would like a word with you. Let's not trivialize content by making everything more powerful than the already broken op Monk and Reaper.

I think you misunderstood what i was saying