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  1. #1741
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    Should be, DRK is the least played by over 40k compared to WAR, 20k compared to GNB. If this doesn't say they're doing something wrong, I don't know what will.

    Take this with a grain of salt, as this is just coming from FFLogs.

    I'm guessing the general playerbase gap would amount to a significantly lower percentage than it has produced from fflogs parse counts alone. That being said, if a DPS faced even the Extreme/NR content gap above, it wouldn't remotely worry the devs. I doubt this would be nearly enough of a red flag.
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  2. #1742
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I'm guessing the general playerbase gap would amount to a significantly lower percentage than it has produced from fflogs parse counts alone.
    That's why I said take it with a grain of salt. However, I'm fairly sure the majority of high-end content players do parse, so I would place my bets that SE does pay attention to how much said class is used in high-end content. I think FFLogs, least for NA, is not the worst thing to use when measuring how much a job is played.

    That's why the most I'm expecting is some regen on Oblation, but I still have hope.
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  3. #1743
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    Sacrilegion's Avatar
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    Ricky' Spanish
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Dps on DRK is not the problem, the problem is their ability to actually be a tank. They are so painful and frustrating to heal for due to having no self sustain. Your dps when you are dead is 0 and no amount of parsing fixes that.
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  4. #1744
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    Dps on DRK is not the problem, the problem is their ability to actually be a tank. They are so painful and frustrating to heal for due to having no self sustain. Your dps when you are dead is 0 and no amount of parsing fixes that.
    It's more of the playstyle than anything, least for me. Despite the community shoving solutions in their face, they still don't know what direction they want DRK to go. I still wish it was less random weaving, more buffing your GCDs. It's why I think 3.0 DRK was so good offensively. Buffing your GCDs with Dark Arts while also applying Blood Weapon made the job feel fast without OGCD bloat, paired with chaotic MP management. Everything actually synergized with each other, minus its horrible defensive play.

    MMMMM I just wish a 3.0 private server would arrive already. Or a private server that has 3.0 DRK's rotation in mind.
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    Last edited by Sazuzaki; 01-01-2022 at 10:39 AM.

  5. #1745
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    Hazama999's Avatar
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    Momoida Jojoida
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Checking in with my fellow ex-DRK mains.
    How are y'all doing?
    Personally been enjoying the hell out of RPR.
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    PGY-3 Family Medicine resident.
    Constantly learning.

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  6. #1746
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    Dps on DRK is not the problem, the problem is their ability to actually be a tank. They are so painful and frustrating to heal for due to having no self sustain. Your dps when you are dead is 0 and no amount of parsing fixes that.
    This is only a problem in multi-pulling content, AKA Dungeons.

    Current non-dungeon content it makes no difference, Healers have a massive amount O-GCDs, any Healer disagreeing should learn using them. Paladin had 0 sustain in Shadowbringers and did just fine in any content, and Healers got upgrades in EW.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  7. #1747
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I got it to 81 and might level it with trusts slowly, all the while accidentally hitting carve and spit in pulls and losing abyssal drain uses (for whatever that's worth). The best part is if I pull too big I can't even count on my invuln. Walking dead and npc healers, great combo.

    DRK isn't my main tank (at least since HW/StB), but it is/was my Sub-tank for when I'm not playing WAR.
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  8. #1748
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    Ricky' Spanish
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Zero sustain in ShB, lol what? XD
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  9. #1749
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    Ricky' Spanish
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    Samurai Lv 80
    PLD clemency got nerfed by taking away requiescat 50% scaling because it was a bit much and would be made worse with the regen and mitigation bonuses
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  10. #1750
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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrilegion View Post
    PLD clemency got nerfed by taking away requiescat 50% scaling because it was a bit much and would be made worse with the regen and mitigation bonuses
    Still shouldn't be using it...

    Paladin runs on a synced rotation, any cast of Clemency, hell even trying to cast it will kill it's DPS and start falling to Healer level, or lower.

    It's only getting used when there's nothing to attack. If people call that a sustain, that is insulting.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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