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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Focusing on a casual playerbase is a decision the devs make themselves and it's despite toxic casualism like that big wall of text rather than because.
    To be fair, the hardcore raiding playerbase is the minority of FFXIV and really shouldn't be catered to. Ultimately, FFXIV is a single-player FF experience in an MMO wrapping. Hardscore raiders really shouldn't expect to have the game revolve around them with systems in place that very few players will use or want to use. I am in NO WAY slamming hardcore raiders, I say go for it. But it truly isn't how this game was designed and Savage isn't really content a majority of the playerbase dives into.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    To be fair, the hardcore raiding playerbase is the minority of FFXIV and really shouldn't be catered to. Ultimately, FFXIV is a single-player FF experience in an MMO wrapping. Hardscore raiders really shouldn't expect to have the game revolve around them with systems in place that very few players will use or want to use. I am in NO WAY slamming hardcore raiders, I say go for it. But it truly isn't how this game was designed and Savage isn't really content a majority of the playerbase dives into.
    That would be a terrible waste of potential because the devs are really good at making challenging content. The game can have something for everyone and saying raiders should not be catered to is not only ignorant of the content we do get but also a needless black and white approach. If the game wasnt designed for raiders we would not have savage at all. I think you are understimating how many people try out savage.
    I saw some data from a year ago that states almost a quarter of all max level players global at the time had a non echo e5s clear logged, going down to around 13% for e8s. Considerably higher numbers when looking just at the JP DCs, which in my assumption are very important to the devs.
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    To be fair, the hardcore raiding playerbase is the minority of FFXIV and really shouldn't be catered to.
    35% of JP players have cleared E4S.
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    35% of JP players have cleared E4S.
    That doesn't surprise me. It's a fun fight that rewards a multi-seat mount. If anything I'm surprised it's not a higher percentage.
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    That doesn't surprise me. It's a fun fight that rewards a multi-seat mount. If anything I'm surprised it's not a higher percentage.
    it's also a pretty old fight at this point, if you have a good buddy or two that **** at the game but you want them to have a 4 seat mount you just drag them through the fight, hardly high end as it stands, even if it still isn't free.
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    Hazakura Sashihai
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    To be fair, the hardcore raiding playerbase is the minority of FFXIV and really shouldn't be catered to. Ultimately, FFXIV is a single-player FF experience in an MMO wrapping. Hardscore raiders really shouldn't expect to have the game revolve around them with systems in place that very few players will use or want to use. I am in NO WAY slamming hardcore raiders, I say go for it. But it truly isn't how this game was designed and Savage isn't really content a majority of the playerbase dives into.
    SO Yoshi P, a Hardcore Raider himself, shouldn;t make content he likes in his own game?

    Also we'ren't you the same person who literally looked up peoples on the forum logs to shame them and then got mad when people looked up your logs?
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