Parsing unfair but okay?

[BaconBits]

YoshiP: "That system will be the root of bullying. I'm 100% confident in that. I know you'll see this in party finders: 'Only join if you can prove you can do dps XXX amount'. We never want that to happen."

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What can we say. The man was right. The prophecy proved itself to be true. And it's exactly why it'll never officially be in game. You can all see right there that that kind of behavior irritates him. But unfortunately no matter how much people kick and scream, that behavior always without fail always comes hand-in-hand with public parsing. Just report it when you spot it. Yah people will cry and type up novels about why they should be able to do exactly what Yoshi has said multiple times now that he hates. But you have the right of way, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to take that person down for demanding that in-game which is stupid and begging for a ban to begin with. Idk why people are so determined to do crimes openly-what is this, san francisco. Jeez. -and if this post makes anyone who doesnt post public pfs asking for parse logs still seethe regardless, then you're tripping your own bike with a stick and I need you to stop that.

I firmly believe that people who keysmash shouldn't be allowed to have opinions.

[DinahDemiurge]

I think fflogs are a cancer, personally. I am still pro-parse for self improvement though and it is absolute joke that SE doesn't build one in house for console players so they know how they are doing relative to the rest of the group. Harassing underperformers is already a bannable offense so why not just give console players the goods?

[Menriq]

I think fflogs are a cancer, personally. I am still pro-parse for self improvement though and it is absolute joke that SE doesn't build one in house for console players so they know how they are doing relative to the rest of the group. Harassing underperformers is already a bannable offense so why not just give console players the goods?

So here's the thing with this take. Comparing yourself to the rest of the group isn't really a good way to improve, because that aspect really doesn't matter. If I'm a Bard, comparing myself to a Black Mage really doesn't tell me if I'm playing my job in a way to improve. Instead, I should be comparing myself to other Bards to see how I can compare. FFLogs is one part of that bridge. It's not widely discussed, but there is another tool that feeds of FFLogs (XIVanalysis) that takes your logs, and can pinpoint areas for improvement.

[Jin-]

Only one thing should be gatekeeped and that is raider.io

[Raven2014]

Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?

How can I apply for a high-end job without any proof of education and experience?

I don't think the problem here is you finding a static, I had seen plenty of casual static recruitment that does not ask for parse ... why not join them?

As for the parse availability. If you play high-end content for a decent amount, you WILL have a parse regardless you're uploading them or not, because the people run with you probably upload theirs which including yours all the time. It's almost impossible not to have presence there. In fact, some people who does not wish to be seen have to opt-out so their logs are not shown. I highly recommend you to just search for your character name, you will see it.

The only way for you to not have a parse would be you simply play very very little.

[LittleImp]

Hello,

I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available.

You actually do have public logs from last tier, someone else seems to have uploaded them for you. If you visit your page on FFLogs, navigate to Shadowbringers in the top left, and click the ECHO tab at the top you should see them appear.

[JanVanding]

I love the irony here. Players are gatekeeping by using parse data as constructive criticism yet reporting potential statics you applied to, and who took the time to give you a trial totally isn't scummy behavior. Anything and every excuse imaginable, I guess...

Allow me to let you in on a secret. The two most popular sources for static recruitment by a enormous margin are Discord and Reddit. Both of which are entirely outside of a GM's reach should they require logs.



If you have any PC friends who fancy doing EXs, you could ask them to parse you. Otherwise, your best option is joining "barse" parties. One thing I can suggest is logging multiple jobs if you're open to being flexible within your role. That can really help give you an edge on other potential statics. If nothing else, spam the new normal mode raids a bunch. You'll inevitably get things uploaded by someone.

If they constructively criticize then what's the problem? It's how feedback is offered that makes a difference

It is, funnily enough and this might come as a shock....

Entirely possible to politely decline someone and be constructive about it and thus create no issues whatsoever.

If you just completely dump on someone though, which is entirely against the TOS, parser or no, they are very much open to reports and should be.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

If they constructively criticize then what's the problem? It's how feedback is offered that makes a difference

It is, funnily enough and this might come as a shock....

Entirely possible to politely decline someone and be constructive about it and thus create no issues whatsoever.

If you just completely dump on someone though, which is entirely against the TOS, parser or no, they are very much open to reports and should be.

Sadly we live in an age where any critique, even well meaning and properly worded, seems to be seen as an attack against someone. Heaven forbid you want to debate someone. No one's allowed to disagree with each other now, and every rational critique is seen as a war against the other person.

[strawberrycake]

Hello,

I'm finding it hard to find a MC static due to not having parse logs available. Four out of five statics are requiring logs in pf or discord recruitments. I've cleared the previous raid tier but I don't have the logs.

Is this never intended to be enforced and just a blanket policy with no action ever intended to be taken?

I find this a massive advantage to PC user since I don't have the option available on playstation. I don't have the ability to see if I'm improving or if my gear setup makes a difference. I'm not asking to parse but a self dps meter for consoles would make a giant difference in being competetive. Currently the only available method to test my damage is the target dummy trials but in 3 minutes it can be heavily skewed by crits/dh and the times can vary by a lot.

Is there any advice on how to join a high end static without logs or the ability to optimize?

YOur best bet would be to make one yourself. Not sure how new you are to MMOs, and it can be scary, but making your own may be your best bet. A friend of mine has been doing the same for a while since its easier for them to control how they want things to go, and if needs be you can find someone with a praser to help you for the sake of your own improvement.

[ForteNightshade]

If they constructively criticize then what's the problem? It's how feedback is offered that makes a difference

It is, funnily enough and this might come as a shock....

Entirely possible to politely decline someone and be constructive about it and thus create no issues whatsoever.

If you just completely dump on someone though, which is entirely against the TOS, parser or no, they are very much open to reports and should be.

Now you're being hypocritical.

Your entire post boiled down to "report them if they mention parsers!" In fact, your very first sentence was to suggest filing a report for even requiring one to join their static in the first place. This doesn't exactly invite constructive criticism nor does it give the impression your definition of "nasty" will be in any way genuine.