Endwalker was a great mess(SPOILERS)

[Lauront]

And here is the problem with people taking cutsceen literally instead of abstractly. I remember going through Elpis in a matter of hours, whence the game implied it took days. Also, the Hydalyn vs Zodiak war is understood as a big civil war between 2 supreme entities ... do you think the sundering happens just like that, she talked to a few random ancient, and sunder them on the spot in her human form!?

The "characters" definitely would have a lot more detail form in all story elements that are abstracted into a few line to be delivered to the players, that's just how it is in a video game ... unless someone decide to write a book.

I myself took it abstractly. It doesn't resolve the problem or people's issues with what they were shown, and you then have to make assumptions that she did give her people a fair shot. Unless she related the basis for her concerns, rather than just speaking in terms of platitudes, I'd say she did not.

If the writers failed to make it clear, while employing so many convoluted plot mechanisms, that is on them. As it is, there was so much filler in the story, they more or less wrote a book anyway.

[Raven2014]

If the writers failed to make it clear, while employing so many convoluted plot mechanisms, that is on them. As it is, there was so much filler in the story, they more or less wrote a book anyway.

What you call a failure, I take it with the greatest sense of appreciation. For me good writing is not about spelling out the A, B, C of why something happens, but to provide enough pieces for the reader to come to the conclusion "oh I see, that's why it happens" WITHOUT being told straight out.

[Lauront]

What you call a failure, I take it with the greatest sense of appreciation. For me good writing is not about spelling out the A, B, C of why something happens, but to provide enough pieces for the reader to come to the conclusion "oh I see, that's why it happens" WITHOUT being told straight out.

This is the culmination of years of plots and planning. It's not that I or anyone else is asking them to spell out every little detail. It's that what details we already have line up poorly with what we're shown, so people are rightly asking questions and don't take her logic as sound on a "trust me bruh" basis. I don't think we're going to agree on this front.