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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    Agree with this completely, and that's what healers should be asking for instead of tank nerfs.
    I can understand asking for more healing too instead, but I don't think people are being realistic when they demand it needs to all go away (and not just nerfing individual broken skills). Removing tank sustain won't fix anything unless you practically take it all off, which doesn't seem likely. To really make healing interesting you'd have to do more than rebalance the jobs themselves too and rework every instance. At best a couple of fights are going to get tiny changes to their scripting, but that's all it's going to be. It's frankly incredibly unlikely even when they make a whole new batch of encounters next expansion. I just don't see the entire paradigm changing like that mid-game or them going back to rescript the old content to make it match.

    And getting hostile over the notion DRK should be brought up to at least something resembling the other tanks is just some weird cycle of abuse thing. Being bored 80% percent of the time but once in a while a DRK shows up isn't the right way to "keep" your role interesting.
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Removing tank sustain won't fix anything unless you practically take it all off, which doesn't seem likely. To really make healing interesting you'd have to do more than rebalance the jobs themselves too and rework every instance.
    Big self-sustain on tanks just needs a con, not advanced as the things we got.

    - Something comparable to clemency aka ressource and damage-loss. You don´t want to use it, but you can if e.g. your healer needs to rezz.
    - Or something comparable to Living Dead. Just made as emergency button, of course not always "you gonna die", but maybe 15s 30% less damage output while under its effect?!
    - High cooldowns like the invuls have.

    Otherwise they could reduce the amount of overall defs and give us a decent rotation with buffs back. Just give every tank 2 unique defs on top to work with.

    Nothing is wrong with self-sustain as emergency-tools or with drawbacks if you can use them multiple times. But being like "6-8 defs + 123 heal = gg" is clearly wrong.
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    Zordiark Darkeater
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    Big self-sustain on tanks just needs a con, not advanced as the things we got.

    - Something comparable to clemency aka ressource and damage-loss. You don´t want to use it, but you can if e.g. your healer needs to rezz.
    - Or something comparable to Living Dead. Just made as emergency button, of course not always "you gonna die", but maybe 15s 30% less damage output while under its effect?!
    - High cooldowns like the invuls have.

    Otherwise they could reduce the amount of overall defs and give us a decent rotation with buffs back. Just give every tank 2 unique defs on top to work with.

    Nothing is wrong with self-sustain as emergency-tools or with drawbacks if you can use them multiple times. But being like "6-8 defs + 123 heal = gg" is clearly wrong.
    I would GLADLY take any option/ability that lets me Sacrafice 50% of my Damage for some real self sustain on my DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zordrage View Post
    I would GLADLY take any option/ability that lets me Sacrafice 50% of my Damage for some real self sustain on my DRK.
    I wouldn´t mind it, but how many here would?

    It would be a niche tool without any big use unless things go ham. And if they go ham in raids, it´s in 99% of all cases over anyway. So i´m 100% sure ppl will show up as they do with MNK aka "SSS is shit.". Niche-skills or "being punished" are not welcome in this community. That´s why everything is homogenized af.
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