Changes Need to be Made to HoH

[HyoMinPark]

While I disagree, as I said to someone else, it was reported as a abuse of the vote dismiss system, so it is up to SE. I know I'll never hear the outcome and that is fine, but I at least did my part. Difference in playstyle can mean a lot of things. Them sitting at the exit point and not helping while still earning accursed hoard from my getting chests would be a difference in playstyle, but since I'm not the majority I get screwed. I did nothing wrong outside the confines of the dungeon/duty and therefore should not be removed.

You are still failing to understand what majority rules means. If the tables had been turned and it was one player speeding the dungeon, and the other three farming chests and hoards; then the responses they would get would be the same you are getting now. There is no one purpose for PotD/HoH. Whatever the majority of the matched party wants goes. And dismissing a player that isn’t fitting into that playstyle is not a punishable act. The GMs won’t do anything to those three players because they did not break any rules.

[Azuri]

While I disagree, as I said to someone else, it was reported as a abuse of the vote dismiss system, so it is up to SE. I know I'll never hear the outcome and that is fine, but I at least did my part. Difference in playstyle can mean a lot of things. Them sitting at the exit point and not helping while still earning accursed hoard from my getting chests would be a difference in playstyle, but since I'm not the majority I get screwed. I did nothing wrong outside the confines of the dungeon/duty and therefore should not be removed.

Exactly. Vote dismiss is a majority vote. The interests of three members of the party stand above the interests of one. You may disagree but this is how it is.

[AbysmalDuck]

While I appreciate the discussion, I've gotten all the "create a party finder" and so on that I can handle for the evening. If you think I'm imposing my playstyle on someone, when the duty was created for challenge/loot/aetherpool leveling, then you are absolutely crazy.

Have a great evening.

[Mezzoforte]

While I disagree, as I said to someone else, it was reported as a abuse of the vote dismiss system, so it is up to SE. I know I'll never hear the outcome and that is fine, but I at least did my part. Difference in playstyle can mean a lot of things. Them sitting at the exit point and not helping while still earning accursed hoard from my getting chests would be a difference in playstyle, but since I'm not the majority I get screwed. I did nothing wrong outside the confines of the dungeon/duty and therefore should not be removed.

You had a difference of playstyle. Yoshi has said time and time again thats totally fine reason to kick. No need to get salty.

[Makeda]

If I'm to be frank. I don't think Deep Dungeon should've been used as a levelling playground in the first place.

The problem there is that other than Deep Dungeons every path to leveling classes beyond the first one is painfully slow and for what... At this point story is done, and it's just grinding.

Levels as a concept are kind of pointless. But people still cling to them, and then go out and seek ways to speed past them. It's a constant tension there - and it reveals that fiction that the game is not a grindfest. It is. Once you do the MSQ and get your first class to max level - you're stuck grinding pointless content that has no story just to get other classes caught up to where you already are.

A problem most MMOs share.

I'd personally say we need to either do away with levels - content still unlocking as normal by doing the MSQ, but once there that's it. Or... we should actually be boosting the XP of FATES, Deep Dungeons, and Bozja by a factor of 5 to 10 for classes lower in level than you top leveled by class. And of those FATES should be paced to spawn at a rate that always makes them the fastest method of the three.

[HyoMinPark]

While I appreciate the discussion, I've gotten all the "create a party finder" and so on that I can handle for the evening. If you think I'm imposing my playstyle on someone, when the duty was created for challenge/loot/aetherpool leveling, then you are absolutely crazy.

Have a great evening.

The content was created for whatever the party in there wants it to be. It does not have a singular purpose, and you don’t have an argument here. You are trying to impose what YOU want it to be for onto whatever matched party you end up with, and that’s not how the content works. It’s for whatever that party decides its for. The official page describing what an accursed hoard is =/= stating that this is the purpose of PotD/HoH. Fun fact: intuitions and hoards weren’t even present in PotD at release.

It’s multipurpose, and it always has been. Since PotD was introduced in Patch 3.35—which was over five years ago. HoH is just a copy-paste.

[Azuri]

While I appreciate the discussion, I've gotten all the "create a party finder" and so on that I can handle for the evening. If you think I'm imposing my playstyle on someone, when the duty was created for challenge/loot/aetherpool leveling, then you are absolutely crazy.

Have a great evening.

And you are of course the duty police to define what it was created for? If we really think about it, content in MMOs is usually created with the sole goal of making profit by entertaining a player for a fee. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anyway, don't let the door hit you on the way out. But really, consider checking marketboard for those minions you want, they are likely worth peanuts. And check out that "Party Finder". Such an easy solution to save yourself a lot of grief.

[Dogempire]

While I appreciate the discussion, I've gotten all the "create a party finder" and so on that I can handle for the evening. If you think I'm imposing my playstyle on someone, when the duty was created for challenge/loot/aetherpool leveling, then you are absolutely crazy.

Have a great evening.

In my experience most people won't bother to vote kick people over getting silver chests and accursed hoard, it just depends on how much you're slowing things down.

If you add 3 minutes to each floor that's 27 minutes of wasted time (Not counting the boss floor) and most people don't want to sign up for that

[Makeda]

While I appreciate the discussion, I've gotten all the "create a party finder" and so on that I can handle for the evening. If you think I'm imposing my playstyle on someone, when the duty was created for challenge/loot/aetherpool leveling, then you are absolutely crazy.

The problem there is how sure are you of that statement?

Deep Dungeons have been about leveling since they were first introduced. They rapidly replaced FATE grinding.

If you want to use them for something else - the beginning of an expansion when 103% of the playerbase is trying to level up all the classes they regularly play is a very bad time to be doing it.

A few months in and I've always found everyone starts using these places to grind up the weapon skins by hitting the silver chests. But right now - it's all about leveling.

Your personal desires aside - when you face off against the ocean you will get swept away.

[Hasrat]

That's the thing though, I'm not imposing anything. I'm running the content as it was created and designed for.

These statements are contradictory.

Content gives exp, so running it for exp is still running it for its designated purpose.