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    Changes Need to be Made to HoH

    I know people will disagree and I'll get a lot of hate, but then again that is what this is for to provide my opinion and have an open discussion.

    I want to go into HoH to gain aetherpool and collect chests. That was what the dungeon was created for. It was not created for 10 level speed runs to level your alts. Unfortunately, that was something the community found as a fast way of leveling and that is fine, but that isn't what matched party making is for. You should be creating party finders for this as you are changing the original intent of the dungeon to your playstyle.

    This is the definition of party finder. PF is for speedruns/exp farming. You should not be allowed to vote dismiss me from HoH when I'm simply doing the duty as it was created to be done.

    As I said, considering how many people I've had say shit to me thus far from just trying to collect silver chests and get intuitions, I know I'll get flamed, but if at least one person from SE sees this, I would appreciate you doing something about either the amount of exp or something to deter from this behavior.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    I want to go into HoH to gain aetherpool and collect chests. That was what the dungeon was created for. It was not created for 10 level speed runs to level your alts.
    You do realise that content can serve more than one purpose, right? Not just the purpose you personally prefer to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You do realise that content can serve more than one purpose, right? Not just the purpose you personally prefer to do.
    I do realize this, which is why I said it was fine that the community found this to be a way to level, but I shouldn't be bullied into playing the way they interpret the dungeon should be played. I also shouldn't be vote dismissed for opening chests as I wasn't doing anything outside the scope of the dungeon.

    This would be like dismissing people for opening chests in a leveling dungeon as you walk through the corridors.

    Obviously, you only get one side of the story here, but I reported the incident and I'll just have to let SE look into what they think is right or wrong.
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    You're trying to impose your playstyle on 3 other randoms while also saying it's wrong for them to impose their playstyle on you. Just relax. If you want complete control over the group content you run, make a PF for it, or try and run it solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    You're trying to impose your playstyle on 3 other randoms while also saying it's wrong for them to impose their playstyle on you. Just relax. If you want complete control over the group content you run, make a PF for it, or try and run it solo.
    That's the thing though, I'm not imposing anything. I'm running the content as it was created and designed for. The other 3 are imposing their "exp farm/speedrun" playstyle on me. Like I said, I knew people would disagree and that is fine, but don't disagree just because the community has decided they like this way to farm exp. Provide a better excuse other than "You don't pay my sub."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    That's the thing though, I'm not imposing anything. I'm running the content as it was created and designed for. The other 3 are imposing their "exp farm/speedrun" playstyle on me. Like I said, I knew people would disagree and that is fine, but don't disagree just because the community has decided they like this way to farm exp. Provide a better excuse other than "You don't pay my sub."
    You're making their speedruns take longer so you're imposing your playstyle on them by holding them up.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    That's the thing though, I'm not imposing anything. I'm running the content as it was created and designed for.
    These statements are contradictory.

    Content gives exp, so running it for exp is still running it for its designated purpose.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    If they gave bonus exp for enemies slain and coffers opened, we could get everyone on the same page, exploring being the most efficient way to grind even if you're there for exp. The fixed amount of exp per run made this speedrun vs explorers conflict.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    If I'm to be frank. I don't think Deep Dungeon should've been used as a levelling playground in the first place. But instead rather something incorporated exclusively at endgame, with multiple difficulty modes and have gear rewards tied to it, and I don't mean the poultry aether weapons, but instead something that could rival or be used as an alternate gearing path, or in conjunction with tomestone and savage gear. I feel it would add some more variety to gear progression.
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