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    Michieltjuhh's Avatar
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    Aug 2019
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    Alhiri Visili
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    People's feelings aren't usually very rational.

    Also, a lot of people who play this game aren't necessarily obsessed with getting stronger or becoming better. They want the rewards behind certain content, but don't want to feel pressured to push their limits too hard.
    "They want the rewards behind certain content, and don't want others to notice they didn't bother putting in what little effort it takes to perform at a level required to obtain it, instead having others carry them."

    Unfortunately, that's how I see it, because people will abuse the hell out of a system where you can't be held accountable for performing horrible at your class. Not standing in the ouchies isn't very hard. Not standing in the ouchies while maintaining uptime, generally is.

    I ask myself one simple question whenever I do content: would a group of exclusively me be capable of clearing this. If the answer is no, then I'll join a progress group, rather than a duty completion one.
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    In my instance, I work constantly 5-6 days a week and when I can sit down and play, I play, I don't expect to be carried, I don't expect to be handheld, I expect to learn like everyone else and have accepted that Savage as much as I'd love to do it, Time constraints of work schedule dictate that it's not happening, but I do have time to learn and farm EX content, I do have time to learn my job and get to a decent enough level with it...

    I just can't do what I did at College where I could just no life whenever my course work was done or half term break.

    Time is the reason we don't sit and look into perfecting at the macro level, because that requires a lot of time the average player cannot spare and sorry to say it hardcore players

    You too one day will be in the same position, where time restrains what you can do and you too won't like people thinking you're too "lazy" to learn something either. That day comes for us all unfortunately and I say that as someone that was once a hardcore Raider that probably no lifed content in other games that some of you only saw at a fraction of what it used to be.

    Savage and Ultimates are designed for you, they're designed for you to spend many a nights working out with your data the most effective and efficient way of clearing.

    EXes are for us, the people that like a little bit more challenging content but don't have the time to go into the macro level.
    I think you'll find that gaming is no different from performing a job - some people are naturally good at it, while others are not. Automatically assuming that anyone who's even remotely decent at something is no-lifing it, is incredibly short sighted. A lot of people will likely perform twice as well as you with less than half the time invested, just like you will be better at certain things IRL than they are in similar fashion.

    Reminds me of the times where people called me a no-life PvP'er in WoW, while I had about 150 arena matches played to get 2800 rating and they had 750 matches played to get 2100 rating. Flawless logic.
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    Last edited by Michieltjuhh; 12-16-2021 at 09:09 AM.