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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Edie Ul'mehdi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90

    People advertising they're running Parsers

    Cute switching out the letter P with B, but no.

    Don't do it, you know it's not allowed. You want to run your Abacus with yourself of your group of friends together, go for it.

    Don't ask, Don't tell is still very much in play, people can and will report you for it and if you get caught you're in trouble.

    Run your calculator quietly, don't go shouting it out that you are going to check others with your math tools and decide if they can play with you.
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    Pavise's Avatar
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    Behind You
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    Alek Sol
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    Ravana
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    Samurai Lv 97
    Look, as long as they're not abusing anyone by using them all the more power to them.
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    Darksummoner's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Meteon U'mani
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Look, as long as they're not abusing anyone by using them all the more power to them.

    Everyone has secrets. If you are using it then keep quiet about it. I know I would if I were them.
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Look, as long as they're not abusing anyone by using them all the more power to them.
    I use one occasionally, but I only turn it on if I'm playing within range of another NIN with similar item level. I see no point in comparing myself with different classes, since that reveals nothing about my performance.
    (0)
    Last edited by SamSmoot; 12-22-2021 at 09:43 AM.

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    Medura's Avatar
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    Medura Bloodspiller
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

    Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.
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    Xaruko_Nexume's Avatar
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    Xaruko Solo
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Medura View Post
    Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

    Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.
    Actually the TOS prohibits software that modifies the games code, so it isn't "legit." They just choose not to enforce it...for now.
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Actually the TOS prohibits software that modifies the games code, so it isn't "legit." They just choose not to enforce it...for now.
    Parsers - unlike mods that change gear appearance or whatever - DON'T modify the game code; they just read the data being sent to the client and tabulate it.

    Still technically a TOS violation, but as far as anyone can tell, nobody's been banned ONLY for parsing.
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    Parsers - unlike mods that change gear appearance or whatever - DON'T modify the game code; they just read the data being sent to the client and tabulate it.

    Still technically a TOS violation, but as far as anyone can tell, nobody's been banned ONLY for parsing.
    It's not a technicality, it is a violation. Yoshida has personally said in live letters to not use them.

    But it's unofficially in a grey area because SE know how useful they are as tools. So as long as you keep quiet about it they won't do anything. If they catch you using them to gatekeep or criticise people then the ban hammer comes out. As far as I'm aware the punishment for harassment is more robust if you do it with third party tools because that's considered two violations, not just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    Parsers - unlike mods that change gear appearance or whatever - DON'T modify the game code; they just read the data being sent to the client and tabulate it.

    Still technically a TOS violation, but as far as anyone can tell, nobody's been banned ONLY for parsing.
    So, they're breaking into the internet connection between the game client and the server?

    How is that any different in effect than changing the game code?
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    So, they're breaking into the internet connection between the game client and the server?

    How is that any different in effect than changing the game code?
    They aren't breaking any internet connection. The data comes from the client / server, and is in memory. This memory is read, interpreted, and then written out to a log. This log is what is used for the parser, uploading, etc. So, to answer your question, it's not changing anything; it's just reading what is already in memory.
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