2nd night unable to play because of LONG queue times

[Sekurity]

'Entitled' has several meanings. Just because you are using one definition of it - correctly, might I add - does not negate the simple fact that I'm using another definition of it which happens to also be correct. You are entitled to what you paid for - which is a game currently undergoing a launch where service may be interrupted. You are also entitled to the ability to cancel your subscription, as outlined by the ToS/EULA that you signed to play the game, which is the same ToS/EULA that states pretty clearly that service may be interrupted and you acknowledge this. You signed that, in order to even play the game. If you didn't agree, you were also entitled to a refund of your purchase. You signed the waiver. If you found an interruption of service to be unacceptable, you were given the option well before you logged in to decline, get your money back and go about your day.

You are entitled because you expect differently, in spite of having been given a large amount of warning in both a document that you signed in order to even use the service that you then paid for, as well as the advance warning of the team that while they have done what they could, the servers may still encounter issues because they had an unprecedented amount of people purchase the game and return to play. Remember, the service is active for everyone - including those people who didn't purchase the expansion, but still pay for the game and play the expansion they have. Those people, too, are in the same queues you are. They count, even if they did not pay for Endwalker. You don't have to pay for Endwalker to be part of the surge, and thus you can be very unexpected.

You aren't being respectful, either. You've resorted to name-calling later in the thread, and you posted this thread in a forum that it is not intended for. You are not asking for technical help. You are not offering technical statistics to those who moderate this forum in an effort to help them pinpoint issues, unknown or otherwise. You made your own post about the queues. The queues everyone is aware of, everyone is dealing with, and everyone has to get through. Your thread helps no one. You are entitled to your opinion, and your voice. Your entitlement is in believing, thoroughly, that you are doing a company a service by stating the obvious.



Yes, the prices are far more expensive due to supply and demand, but there are an enormous amount of industries that are impacted by this shortage. Your entitlement is in believing that the company should have shelled out excessive amounts of cash to fix an issue that is not permanent and impacts nothing more than your ability to play a game for a few weeks, while industries responsible for transportation, communication, and basic manufacturing have been struggling since the issue initially began last year, during a global pandemic that saw manufacturing shut down. A pandemic, might I add, that is still ongoing.

Respectfully, your gameplay absolutely takes a backseat to... well, every industry that uses these semiconductors. Your gameplay does not take precedence over machines that are responsible for keeping people alive and well. It doesn't take precedence over the communication industries that need them. It doesn't take precedence over the transportation industries that rely on them. If you think, for even a moment, that the ability to log into a video game at all takes precedence over the ability to monitor someone's beating heart or keep communication alive in critical departments around the world, then you need to understand that you are, in fact, entitled.

So, please. By all means. Keep telling me that this is unacceptable, while understanding that you are trying to tell me that your pretend-y funtimes takes precedence over keeping people alive. Keep telling me that you're not displaying a sense of entitlement. Here, in this thread that you made sure to start yourself instead of putting it in the appropriate forum in a thread where you could get all the agreement that you wanted with all the other people who are all also waiting in the queue and experiencing the exact same completely normal and actually quite expected launch issues that any other MMO would also be experiencing.

I hope you understand, now that I've made sure to really dig into it, why I'm calling you and many others 'entitled.' You believe that you, and your $15, are more important than the fundamental needs of an entire globe - and after last year, I have no patience for people who think far too highly and too much of themselves.



If you were able to allocate your funds directly, maybe. However, your money doesn't just go to the servers. It goes to building maintenance, system maintenance, payroll for an obscene amount of departments, servers, transportation, upgrades, moving costs and more that I cannot find the time to detail - but if any of those departments or things are not paid for, then they do not work. Then you do not get your game. Then you do not have the ability to pay for the game, and thus do not have the game. You are not paying for the servers with $15. You are assisting in paying for everything; mere pennies in the pond comparatively.



As an MMO veteran, I can inform you that this happens with every MMO. New World launched to 20k+ queues. Wildstar? Queues. Guild Wars 2? Queues! World of Warcraft? Queues. Name an MMO, there are queues. The queues here? Smaller than the ones I saw during SB. Why? They upgraded. They didn't upgrade as much as they would have liked because resources were limited, but they upgraded. They have acknowledged that it wasn't enough, they have apologized for the complications due to it, and they are taking the steps to alleviate the issues within their power. They aren't just tacking on more servers that might just also crash - they're actively chasing down the issues causing crashes to stabilize things.

You? You're just waiting in line. This isn't your work. This is comfort, and it is optional. Don't want to wait in line? Then don't - cancel your sub and come back in a few weeks or months. The game will still be here, and the queues will be virtually non-existent. Maybe not gone, but minimal. There's literally an entire internet worth of stuff to do in the meantime.

... you can thank the necessary semi-conductors for that.

I am aware of my so called "entitlements" you've so eloquently laid out for me. But as I discussed early with the IT industry lady, I will continue to do what I see fit and engage with who I see fit until Ive ended it.
I feel like I have to keep repeating myself because the people jumping on me only read the quoted portions they are apart of.

Do you enjoy long queue times? If your answer is no, then going on the forums and expressing your concerns and frustrations is what you are supposed to do. How else is SE supposed to judge how severe this situation without judging the publics reaction. In my OP, I was frustrated, but respectable. YOU people started jumping on me with delusions of entitlements when I was simply doing what gamers are supposed to do.

I will agree that some of the "nerd rage" posts are whiny. But honestly, try to think of me as an ok human being, was my OP a spoiled entitled child whining? If your answer is yes to this, I can't have a legitimate conversation with you anymore.

[Banggugyangu]

I am aware of my so called "entitlements" you've so eloquently laid out for me. But as I discussed early with the IT industry lady, I will continue to do what I see fit and engage with who I see fit until Ive ended it.
I feel like I have to keep repeating myself because the people jumping on me only read the quoted portions they are apart of.

Do you enjoy long queue times? If your answer is no, then going on the forums and expressing your concerns and frustrations is what you are supposed to do. How else is SE supposed to judge how severe this situation without judging the publics reaction. In my OP, I was frustrated, but respectable. YOU people started jumping on me with delusions of entitlements when I was simply doing what gamers are supposed to do.

I will agree that some of the "nerd rage" posts are whiny. But honestly, try to think of me as an ok human being, was my OP a spoiled entitled child whining? If your answer is yes to this, I can't have a legitimate conversation with you anymore.

Your OP was respectful, sure. It was also quite ignorant. You said the red flags had been there for "months". The shortage has been there for over a year and a half.

*edit* Also, yes, expressing your dissatisfaction is good. You expressed yours AFTER they had already acknowledged the problem and given the steps they're taking to address that problem. I'll pose the same question you ignored again. When this issue first presented itself on day 1 of early access, what do you propose would be SE's most appropriate course of action?

[Nulstat]

I am aware of my so called "entitlements" you've so eloquently laid out for me. But as I discussed early with the IT industry lady, I will continue to do what I see fit and engage with who I see fit until Ive ended it. I feel like I have to keep repeating myself because the people jumping on me only read the quoted portions they are apart of.

Do you enjoy long queue times? If your answer is no, then going on the forums and expressing your concerns and frustrations is what you are supposed to do. How else is SE supposed to judge how severe this situation without judging the publics reaction. In my OP, I was frustrated, but respectable. YOU people started jumping on me with delusions of entitlements when I was simply doing what gamers are supposed to do.

I will agree that some of the "nerd rage" posts are whiny. But honestly, try to think of me as an ok human being, was my OP a spoiled entitled child whining? If your answer is yes to this, I can't have a legitimate conversation with you anymore.

Actually, I've made absolutely certain to reply to the entirety of your post. I don't cherry-pick. I greatly dislike when people cherry-pick me, so I don't do it to others. You'll notice I took care to reply to your entire post. Did it the first time I posted, too. You're repeating yourself because people are contradicting what you are saying, and instead of taking what they're saying and restating, you've ended up in a position where your stance isn't all that strong. You keep talking about procurement and how easy it is, but your entire solution to the issue is just to throw money at it; which is, as you can probably guess at this point, incredibly entitled. You're demanding they spend money without any personal knowledge as to their actual budget or efforts. It doesn't satisfy you, and you're not happy. You offer no other solutions, you just tell them it's unacceptable. I'm not sure about you, but if someone tells me that something out of my control is unacceptable and I have done my best to alleviate it, that person telling me it wasn't good enough doesn't make me want to do anything faster. It doesn't help anything, and I'd really like to hope you understand that.


Do I enjoy long queues? I have no strong feelings either way. I have a lot of things I can do while waiting for the queue to go down - Phasmo has an update out that I'm eager to play, I have plenty of community and role-play things to update while I'm waiting, I've got a really fluffy cat that likes to be brushed and cuddled, or I can just mellow and watch some streams for games that interest me outside of my MMO experience. I do the exact same things that I would be doing if I was standing in line anywhere else - I can't avoid the line, but I can entertain myself while I'm in it. As it is? I got free game time while sitting in line with everyone else. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't necessary but quite nice, and I'll enjoy those days when I can play. If there's more days? Cool. I've been in queues more than I've been able to play, but I've greatly enjoyed what I've done so far. It's been very fun, for me, to listen to others. They're excited, and I'll be able to share in that excitement soon.

I am honestly trying to have a discussion with you, but this is too much. Im am actually able to log into FF14 for once, but not going to read all this. My apologies.

I'm glad you're able to play the game, and hope you enjoy it, though I'm certainly not blind to you responding to others in the thread in spite of you getting in. You don't need to make an excuse as to why you don't wish to engage with me; you are responding to shorter posts that are similar to mine, and those that are long but defend your point of view. I'm well aware I'm wordy, but I like to make sure I'm clear.

I did catch the I'm not being respectful in past posts. I give respect to people who give me respect. When people lie and try to twist my OP into some delusional spoiled brat entitled nerdrage, I'm going on the defensive. Simple as that. I start every conversation with respect. If someone starts off insulting me, all bets are off for a respectful manner goes out the window. Im also not "name calling," im describing their behavior.

I didn't lie, nor did I twist anything. Again, you are claiming something is unacceptable. This something is something that you have no control over. You offer no solutions other than to throw money that isn't yours to throw at a problem that is greater than your playtime. You do sound spoiled, yes. You also show a base lack of empathy; things happen. Queues happen (in fact, there's always a tiny queue of 30 or so on my server at primetime, not counting the current launch situation), crashes happen, sometimes things just happen.

I'd be upset if these things were happening and we were getting radio silence, sure. We aren't, however. They've been very transparent and informational. The servers are not an option at this moment. The shortage no longer matters - it is too late to get those servers in and set up. So, they are doing what they can and what is in their power to do. To me, that is very acceptable.

[Sekurity]

Actually, I've made absolutely certain to reply to the entirety of your post. I don't cherry-pick. I greatly dislike when people cherry-pick me, so I don't do it to others. You'll notice I took care to reply to your entire post. Did it the first time I posted, too. You're repeating yourself because people are contradicting what you are saying, and instead of taking what they're saying and restating, you've ended up in a position where your stance isn't all that strong. You keep talking about procurement and how easy it is, but your entire solution to the issue is just to throw money at it; which is, as you can probably guess at this point, incredibly entitled. You're demanding they spend money without any personal knowledge as to their actual budget or efforts. It doesn't satisfy you, and you're not happy. You offer no other solutions, you just tell them it's unacceptable. I'm not sure about you, but if someone tells me that something out of my control is unacceptable and I have done my best to alleviate it, that person telling me it wasn't good enough doesn't make me want to do anything faster. It doesn't help anything, and I'd really like to hope you understand that.


Do I enjoy long queues? I have no strong feelings either way. I have a lot of things I can do while waiting for the queue to go down - Phasmo has an update out that I'm eager to play, I have plenty of community and role-play things to update while I'm waiting, I've got a really fluffy cat that likes to be brushed and cuddled, or I can just mellow and watch some streams for games that interest me outside of my MMO experience. I do the exact same things that I would be doing if I was standing in line anywhere else - I can't avoid the line, but I can entertain myself while I'm in it. As it is? I got free game time while sitting in line with everyone else. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't necessary but quite nice, and I'll enjoy those days when I can play. If there's more days? Cool. I've been in queues more than I've been able to play, but I've greatly enjoyed what I've done so far. It's been very fun, for me, to listen to others. They're excited, and I'll be able to share in that excitement soon.



I'm glad you're able to play the game, and hope you enjoy it, though I'm certainly not blind to you responding to others in the thread in spite of you getting in. You don't need to make an excuse as to why you don't wish to engage with me; you are responding to shorter posts that are similar to mine, and those that are long but defend your point of view. I'm well aware I'm wordy, but I like to make sure I'm clear.



I didn't lie, nor did I twist anything. Again, you are claiming something is unacceptable. This something is something that you have no control over. You offer no solutions other than to throw money that isn't yours to throw at a problem that is greater than your playtime. You do sound spoiled, yes. You also show a base lack of empathy; things happen. Queues happen (in fact, there's always a tiny queue of 30 or so on my server at primetime, not counting the current launch situation), crashes happen, sometimes things just happen.

I'd be upset if these things were happening and we were getting radio silence, sure. We aren't, however. They've been very transparent and informational. The servers are not an option at this moment. The shortage no longer matters - it is too late to get those servers in and set up. So, they are doing what they can and what is in their power to do. To me, that is very acceptable.

Im gathering wood and have been for the past 2 hours. All the other posts were of reasonable size to me. Also, Im a quick typer but not a fast reader. My apologies.