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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekurity View Post
    Thank you valhalid for your astute observation of the matter and suggestions. If every person was like you, we could really get things done.
    I know you are upset but you gotta drop the passive-agressiveness >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahst View Post
    Dunning–Kruger effect in full swing with Sekurity and Ziplda here, oof. It's like... they actively want to put how ignorant/entitled they are on fully display here. Gotta wonder where the delusion stems from, fascinating stuff though. Loving this, please continue~
    I'm just going to assume this is trolling here. No one can be this mindless. Good to see you are still in this fight though Rahst. Please continue to add to the post count with your awe inspiring messages.
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    I get why folks are frustrated. It's totally fair, and voicing complaints is justified.

    But how much can we really expect? Big MMO launches of any kind are always extremely difficult, if not nearly impossible, to pull off without a hitch. This sucks, but it's far from the worst launches, and will inevitably settle back down given a bit of time. Which is another key point- how much should they spend expanding and improving the infrastructure, when the actual problems are only going to persist for... some weeks, maybe a month tops? It seems far more practical to beg for patience than to prepare that much more. And even if they did prepare more, it still might've not been enough, because they can't see the future.

    As a paying customer, yeah, it sucks. But it's not like they're also ignoring that. They're giving out free sub time; I, and many others, think this is a fair form of compensation. You aren't obligated to have the patience to agree, and you're certainly welcome to draw the line anyways, but they aren't spitting on their customers for daring to want to play, or forcing them to play at godawful times. They're just trying to work around a temporary problem that's very hard to address directly. Personally, I think that's good enough. Just because people aren't as frustrated about the issues doesn't mean they're white knighting SE or ignoring the problems, it just doesn't bother them as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctemius View Post
    I get why folks are frustrated. It's totally fair, and voicing complaints is justified.

    But how much can we really expect? Big MMO launches of any kind are always extremely difficult, if not nearly impossible, to pull off without a hitch. This sucks, but it's far from the worst launches, and will inevitably settle back down given a bit of time. Which is another key point- how much should they spend expanding and improving the infrastructure, when the actual problems are only going to persist for... some weeks, maybe a month tops? It seems far more practical to beg for patience than to prepare that much more. And even if they did prepare more, it still might've not been enough, because they can't see the future.

    As a paying customer, yeah, it sucks. But it's not like they're also ignoring that. They're giving out free sub time; I, and many others, think this is a fair form of compensation. You aren't obligated to have the patience to agree, and you're certainly welcome to draw the line anyways, but they aren't spitting on their customers for daring to want to play, or forcing them to play at godawful times. They're just trying to work around a temporary problem that's very hard to address directly. Personally, I think that's good enough. Just because people aren't as frustrated about the issues doesn't mean they're white knighting SE or ignoring the problems, it just doesn't bother them as much.
    Honest valid points delivered in a respectful way. Thank you Noctemius. Apparently this is where I become disrespectful to you because of "reasons."
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    I have a question for all the...I don't want to say "white knights" because not all of you are acting that way. Ill say "side 1"

    Why are you even here? I mean I know you guys have the right to be on this forum as much as anyone else here, but why is there always at least one person in one of these threads that has to immediately jump to the defense of this company? Most of the people making complaints are making them for logical reasons. If you are having no trouble with the game, or are are perfectly fine with Squares actions then good on you. But what PURPOSE does it serve to antagonize those who are having issues and are upset other than to just start shit? Is it truly impossible for you to just stay out of it it if it doesn't concern you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApeKing View Post
    I have a question for all the...I don't want to say "white knights" because not all of you are acting that way. Ill say "side 1"

    Why are you even here? I mean I know you guys have the right to be on this forum as much as anyone else here, but why is there always at least one person in one of these threads that has to immediately jump to the defense of this company? Most of the people making complaints are making them for logical reasons. If you are having no trouble with the game, or are are perfectly fine with Squares actions then good on you. But what PURPOSE does it serve to antagonize those who are having issues and are upset other than to just start shit? Is it truly impossible for you to just stay out of it it if it doesn't concern you?
    I couldn't agree with you more. Im defending myself against lies and disrespect, yet we continue to get people coming in here, flipping to the last page, and judging this whole thread on the very last postings. Yet I'm the one in the wrong for some reason.
    But apparently, responding to people on your own post is somehow an obsession.
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    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
    I'd like to think better of this community but its very hard not to see it this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
    Briggs! I was wondering when you were going to swing by. Please, enlighten these people with your words of wisdom.
    Since when did expressing your concerns on the forums become trolling?
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    Jokes aside text communication really can be taken out of context. And unfortunately it does lead to animosity. Deep breaths everyone....
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