New summoner is unacceptable

[Vibronix]

I like new summoner. My main complaint is you barely spend any time casting abilities, it feels much more like a bard than a magic user. Only other complaint is I feel you cycle between summons much too quickly, that it's hard to feel like you're really experiencing the power of Garuda or ifrit or titan and the unique ways each plays for too long compared to bahamut and Phoenix.

Otherwise loving it, though I'm only 87

[Kandraxx]

How is this even still a summoner, I feel like the elemental theme is too dominant now. Feels like I’m playing a shaman in WoW, blasting elemental spells and the pet is basically only flavor.

[Ayer2015]

How is this even still a summoner, I feel like the elemental theme is too dominant now. Feels like I’m playing a shaman in WoW, blasting elemental spells and the pet is basically only flavor.

Feels more like a SMN now than it ever has prior.

[RachelM]

I live and breath my Summoner and this change has been long overdue, imo. Is it an adjustment? Absolutely. Am I somewhat change resistant? A touch but this change is for the better. Button bloat does not equal "meaty" or "complex" and, frankly, the rotation of the old summoner wasn't all that "optimized" either. It was a tad clunky even. Summoner was my main go-to class and I was good at it. I am not saying there isn't room for improvement on this new summoner layout because there is but I'm just not experiencing the amount of angst over the changes that some are. I expect there will be further fine tuning of the class because that's what always happens so I'll just roll with it and see how it all plays out over time. For now however, I'm not unhappy with the new summoner and am even a bit pleased to not have a bunch of craptastic stuff that does little but in order to even TRY to get my damage up I have to use them spells.

[SweetPete]

Love summoner as well. Got it to 90. I do wish our elemental primals stayed out a bit longer like bahamut and Phoenix but hey I’ll take what I can get. Also, I been wanting Alexander Demi for a very long time but I feel we will never get him bwcause he is the time element and we know how the dev teams feels about time related abilities. They don’t want us messing up others rotations.

I was sad but then I saw Hydaelyn and was like Alexander who? I hope she becomes our next Demi summon along with Shiva, Ramuh and Leviathan as the added new elementals.

[Memoranda]

How is this even still a summoner, I feel like the elemental theme is too dominant now. Feels like I’m playing a shaman in WoW, blasting elemental spells and the pet is basically only flavor.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but hasn't FF Summoners always felt like an Elememtalist but with Summons? You called upon Shiva for ice, Ifrit for fire, etc. Obviously an MMO can't just have a job where you Summon pets and let them do literally everything, so when new Summoner summons the elementals they bestow upon us some of their power for our spells. To the best of my knowledge Summoner has never had damage over time spells in their toolkits, and those DoTs I hated because it never felt like I was really playing a Summoner. If y'all want DoTs, ask them to introduce Green Mage or something.

The fact that the rotation is way easier is just icing on the cake. Many DPS jobs feel like they're only getting more complex these days, and I welcome not having to default to Red Mage if I want to play a job that doesn't require planning everything out ten abilities in advance based upon whatever the boss is doing.

[SherlottaEryut]

I've just started to play summoner and to be honest, I don't hate it. People wanted it to be more easy and that's exactly what you got.

Think of it this way; you're just not used to how it is. We went from an overcomplicated rotation to a simplistic one. Obviously it's going to take some time getting used to.. But I don't see why people think it's bad, I still enjoy it and think they did a great job.

[rewd]

Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but hasn't FF Summoners always felt like an Elememtalist but with Summons? You called upon Shiva for ice, Ifrit for fire, etc. Obviously an MMO can't just have a job where you Summon pets and let them do literally everything, so when new Summoner summons the elementals they bestow upon us some of their power for our spells. To the best of my knowledge Summoner has never had damage over time spells in their toolkits, and those DoTs I hated because it never felt like I was really playing a Summoner. If y'all want DoTs, ask them to introduce Green Mage or something.

The fact that the rotation is way easier is just icing on the cake. Many DPS jobs feel like they're only getting more complex these days, and I welcome not having to default to Red Mage if I want to play a job that doesn't require planning everything out ten abilities in advance based upon whatever the boss is doing.

Your comment is overall wrong.

Summoners don't feel like elementalist, first of all because summons are something you don't spam (unlike new SMN). Secondly, because summoners have their own capabilities outside of summons. Yuna and Garnet are specialized in white magic for example, Rydia (the first "true" FF summoner) in black magic instead, and as such she could use damage over time spells.

Lastly, DPS jobs are objectively getting easier.

[FujikoN]

The new summoner is good. I really enjoy and a lot of other players enjoy it.

[Soge01]

Just started playing the new Summoner today and it feels so great. I feel so much more powerful than I did with the previous iterations and it actually feels like a real FF Summoner! I'm still only at lvl 80, but I'm looking forward to seeing what more it can do on the road to lvl 90.