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  1. #1
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    Chelsei's Avatar
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    Chelsei Katell
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Well, the biggest problem now is that monk won't have a rework until way too long. It's just unacceptable :/
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    Noraiga Celesteis
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    Omega
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsei View Post
    Well, the biggest problem now is that monk won't have a rework until way too long. It's just unacceptable :/
    They better rework MNK now ! Because nobody gonna really play it. I don't know why they remade SMN ( i don't play SMN ) but for what i have seen in ShB it was MNK who needed the most a REMADE...
    They messed up so hard AGAIN, it drive me crazy, i mean Nadi is cool and interesting but... It is not enough AT ALL, it's LAZY ! MNK HAVE NO MECH, that's the biggest issue making MNK a freaking boring job compare to ANY other jobs.

    What change from ShB ? NOTHING, 123 => Blitz. Woaw what a rework !!! We got nothing and we lose even more of what we had before...

    DRG who is as old as MNK, got good mech as exemple: Stack eye, stack scale, Nastrond phase, Positionals reward with new animation and better potency, interaction with Jump... I mean wtf SE...
    That's why to me MNK EW is a freaking scam. Because it came with a good looking package but nothing in it or with a poor quality... Yes Thunderclap and Phantom Rush look crazy cool but outside of those it's a pool of stinky mud.
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    Last edited by Noraiga; 12-10-2021 at 02:00 AM.

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    Demi Guul
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Noraiga View Post
    They better rework MNK now ! Because nobody gonna really play it. I don't know why they remade SMN ( i don't play SMN ) but for what i have seen in ShB it was MNK who needed the most a REMADE...
    They messed up so hard AGAIN, it drive me crazy, i mean Nadi is cool and interesting but... It is not enough AT ALL, it's LAZY ! MNK HAVE NO MECH, that's the biggest issue making MNK a freaking boring job compare to ANY other jobs.

    What change from ShB ? NOTHING, 123 => Blitz. Woaw what a rework !!! We got nothing and we lose even more of what we had before...

    DRG who is as old as MNK, got good mech as exemple: Stack eye, stack scale, Nastrond phase, Positionals reward with new animation and better potency, interaction with Jump... I mean wtf SE...
    That's why to me MNK EW is a freaking scam. Because it came with a good looking package but nothing in it or with a poor quality... Yes Thunderclap and Phantom Rush look crazy cool but outside of those it's a pool of stinky mud.
    MNK just feels like a weird stepcousin of SAM now, lol. Damn, maybe I should try DRG...
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    Nial Niffelh
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by meowmaou View Post
    MNK just feels like a weird stepcousin of SAM now, lol. Damn, maybe I should try DRG...
    as well as a weird stepcousin of ninja
    monk is both but worse
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    Demi Guul
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xau View Post
    as well as a weird stepcousin of ninja
    monk is both but worse
    NIN if it stopped leveling at 54, lol
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsei View Post
    Well, the biggest problem now is that monk won't have a rework until way too long. It's just unacceptable :/
    While it shouldn't have released as it is, there's no gauentee that it won't be reworked for a long time. Ninja got a rework in 5.1, so if the outcry is severe enough, there's every reason to think monk could get the same. And unless I'm misremembering, summoner got a rework around that same time too.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsei View Post
    Well, the biggest problem now is that monk won't have a rework until way too long. It's just unacceptable :/
    I really don't think that we need a rework, we already got one and the base is good.
    It just needs some small changes.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I really don't think that we need a rework, we already got one and the base is good.
    It just needs some small changes.
    Agreed. Just two essentials, imo:
    • PB, rather than the Blitz, gives Formless Fist and/or Blitz CD reduced to 30 seconds (with the majority of potency siphoned thereto coming from Twin and Demo's direct damage, as to make optimizing their durations a bit more valuable).
    • Returned positionals, ideally with some manner of unintrusive leniency mechanic.

    The rest would just be non-essential but fruitful matters of making things like SSS, Anatman, Meditation, and Form Shift a bit smoother and more intuitive / "de-clunky-ing" the toolkit.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 12-11-2021 at 05:41 PM.