New summoner is unacceptable

[FusiaRain]

No, it's not fine.
The leveling experience is also an important thing and if things feel bad to play, people will drop the game.

Honestly that would be good thing so all jobs can be closer to their past forms in ff.. Dont rlly care much if outsiders that havent played many ffs drop the game.

Thats just how i feel about it

[Riusvell]

Honestly that would be good thing so all jobs can be closer to their past forms in ff.. Dont rlly care much if outsiders that havent played many ffs drop the game.

Thats just how i feel about it

Can you please stop with putting irrelevant things in your posts?
Like you've been incredibly hostile towards people who don't share your view and people who aren't fans now as well.

[FusiaRain]

Can you please stop with putting irrelevant things in your posts?
Like you've been incredibly hostile towards people who don't share your view and people who aren't fans now as well.

It is relevent plus there's a thing called domio effectone thing tilts then the entire set falls

Also enjoy 1 out of 15 isnt fan, just like im not fan of linkin park just because i like the song In the end .

Now why is it relevent, begore summoner didnt play the way it should at all it played like a warlock not a summoner.

[Vahlnir]

It is relevent plus there's a thing called domio effectone thing tilts then the entire set falls

Also enjoy 1 out of 15 isnt fan, just like im not fan of linkin park just because i like the song In the end .

Now why is it relevent, begore summoner didnt play the way it should at all it played like a warlock not a summoner.

I mean, for some this game was their first FF. That still makes them a fan. So what if they only like 1 or 2 FF titles?

[Rolder50]

Can you please stop with putting irrelevant things in your posts?
Like you've been incredibly hostile towards people who don't share your view and people who aren't fans now as well.

I especially enjoy the incredible lack of spelling and grammar in their posts. Does wonders for their point.

[Riusvell]

It is relevent plus there's a thing called domio effectone thing tilts then the entire set falls

Also enjoy 1 out of 15 isnt fan, just like im not fan of linkin park just because i like the song In the end .

Now why is it relevent, begore summoner didnt play the way it should at all it played like a warlock not a summoner.

So we are ignoring the fact that this can function as a gateway to a series that people may like but never have given a chance?

Summoner now feels less than a Summoner. No longer do I feel like my summons are my allies or fight beside me.
There is no connection, they are just there.

Yet every summoner in past FF's that had the summoner class canonically assigned to them had connections with theirs.
There is a disconnect and this isn't the way to go at things. Now we are just an over glorified mage that flings out spells like it's nothing and it happens to be primal flavoured.

[FusiaRain]

So we are ignoring the fact that this can function as a gateway to a series that people may like but never have given a chance?

Summoner now feels less than a Summoner. No longer do I feel like my summons are my allies or fight beside me.
There is no connection, they are just there.

Yet every summoner in past FF's that had the summoner class canonically assigned to them had connections with theirs.
There is a disconnect and this isn't the way to go at things. Now we are just an over glorified mage that flings out spells like it's nothing and it happens to be primal flavoured.

May it yes it may but not at the expensise of long term fans.


Also that is incorrect their sub jobs were typically bound to another yes be it white mage ir black but it still primarly depened on summons only healing, blsck magic on rare occesions.

Also summons never stuck with you until ff10 you would xall them down, then they would fade from battle until recalled

[Riusvell]

May it yes it may but not at the expensise of long term fans.


Also that is incorrect their sub jobs were typically bound to another yes be it white mage ir black but it still primarly depened on summons only healing, blsck magic on rare occesions.

Also summons never stuck with you until ff10 you would xall them down, then they would fade from battle until recalled

Yet you call yourself a Final fantasy fan, ignoring the outside of combat things like Rydia's connection with the summons on the moon, the Mist Dragon and how her mother got hurt by Cecil and Kain basically dispelling it.

Or how Ramuh speaks to Garnet about how to move forward, Madeen speaking to Eiko and saving her... whilst being beside her for all her life.
Or how Alexander summons the both of them, asking them for their aid to protect their people. The Summoner race in Final Fantasy 9 had contact with these very beings.
So, what is your argument?

[Skiros]

It is relevent plus there's a thing called domio effectone thing tilts then the entire set falls

Also enjoy 1 out of 15 isnt fan, just like im not fan of linkin park just because i like the song In the end .

Now why is it relevent, begore summoner didnt play the way it should at all it played like a warlock not a summoner.

You have sure mastered the art of mimicking a random thought generator.

[FusiaRain]

Yet you call yourself a Final fantasy fan, ignoring the outside of combat things like Rydia's connection with the summons on the moon, the Mist Dragon and how her mother got hurt by Cecil and Kain basically dispelling it.

Or how Ramuh speaks to Garnet about how to move forward, Madeen speaking to Eiko and saving her... whilst being beside her for all her life.
Or how Alexander summons the both of them, asking them for their aid to protect their people. The Summoner race in Final Fantasy 9 had contact with these very beings.
So, what is your argument?

Lol what does any of that do with the job also since you want to go into that.
Garnet had her summons stolen, Ramuh was going to follow her regardless he was just testing her will. Non of that had to do with her job lol.

Also in the series since only 4 jobs could be picked
Lets look at ff5 if i had butz as a summoner to get white magic I had to sub job it with white mage, same with black mage or blue mage.

Ff6 terras parto summon it would do its moves (*e
terra parents were summons so she got bloodline magic tbh.
Ff7/8 had no jobs so skip.

My point still stands pre ff10 you would spend a large amount of mp it would do hellfire,tital wave, diamond dust then leave the field until recalled.
Now ff14 summon kimd of has blm with elemental change after summon, they use move then fade just like classic ff summons o
Lol