Sever Problems start to a fix???????

[Murugan]

This thread has evolved.

Great for it. I was still responding to your moronic OP calling for inactive players to be shipped off their servers, and Coombah's post which I quoted. So bully for you and your "evolution of this thread".

[Coombah]

Read the OP this entire thread is about shipping people with inactive accounts off to another server as a means to fix the cap, when that has nothing to do with the cap in the first place.



I think you are the one in need of an english lesson my friend, because this is what you wrote:

"I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together."

Which is clearly not talking about alts...

Yeah it has every thing to do with it. Inactive characters are taking spots in the server. So they should be moved off the server so that active players can play on the server they choose to . Again reading comprehension inactive accounts hold inactive characters, move them and spots open up on the server

[Murugan]

Yeah it has every thing to do with it. Inactive characters are taking spots in the server. So they should be moved off the server so that active players can play on the server they choose to

lol.... no they aren't.

Inactive players are not taken into account to the server cap.

Inactive alts of ACTIVE PLAYERS are apparently. Because, and this was always the plan even under the other options players with an active account can still move their alts even if those alts are not active. So the OP and you and your silly little campaign to screw over anyone not currently paying for the game are still missing the point.

Nice edit: posting stupid internet meme's when you so clearly have no idea what you are talking about makes you look really cool!

[NefarioCall]

[Coombah]

lol.... no they aren't.

Inactive players are not taken into account to the server cap.

Inactive alts of ACTIVE PLAYERS are apparently. Because, and this was always the plan even under the other options players with an active account can still move their alts even if those alts are not active So the OP and you and your silly little campaign to screw over anyone not currently paying for the game are still missing the point.

Nice edit: posting stupid internet meme's when you so clearly have no idea what you are talking about makes you look really cool!

Your still missing the point... inactive characters And Alts are taking up server space The purpose was for all the inactive accounts/characters to be on the same server bc people cried IF thier friends came back to the game they won't be on the same server

[blackreaper]

lol.... no they aren't.

Inactive players are not taken into account to the server cap.

Inactive alts of ACTIVE PLAYERS are apparently. Because, and this was always the plan even under the other options players with an active account can still move their alts even if those alts are not active. So the OP and you and your silly little campaign to screw over anyone not currently paying for the game are still missing the point.

Nice edit: posting stupid internet meme's when you so clearly have no idea what you are talking about makes you look really cool!

So calling someone a moron????? SO im guessing that means u have no idea what u are talking about makes yo look really cool! And I think you wrote that.

[Murugan]

Your still missing the point... inactive characters And Alts are taking up server space

Conditions Required to Apply for a World Transfer
To apply for a World transfer, an existing playable character must be associated with a player's service account. As long as a player has at least one usable character, a destination World may be chosen for all characters in the service account, including characters that have not yet been paid for.
* To view and change subscription details, visit the Square Enix Account Management System and click Select Service on the left-hand menu, and then select FINAL FANTASY XIV.


ALTS OF ACTIVE ACCOUNTS.

Inactive characters are not taking up server space.

"quote from Yoshi...

Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server. "

My god... lol! Keep trying.

[Wynn]

Conditions Required to Apply for a World Transfer
To apply for a World transfer, an existing playable character must be associated with a player's service account. As long as a player has at least one usable character, a destination World may be chosen for all characters in the service account, including characters that have not yet been paid for.
* To view and change subscription details, visit the Square Enix Account Management System and click Select Service on the left-hand menu, and then select FINAL FANTASY XIV.


ALTS OF ACTIVE ACCOUNTS.

Inactive characters are not taking up server space.

"quote from Yoshi...

Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server. "

My god... lol! Keep trying.

At this point you guys are just arguing semantics.

What you post does seem to pose a problem. If a good majority of people have one active character but created eight when the game was free on their account that is seven potential characters per person that are just taking up space, completely inactive accounts aside. In all likelihood, these are characters that will simply never be used again. Obviously these are being counted since people have been successful in moving them to open a slot and get their friends on their server.

[Coombah]

Conditions Required to Apply for a World Transfer
To apply for a World transfer, an existing playable character must be associated with a player's service account. As long as a player has at least one usable character, a destination World may be chosen for all characters in the service account, including characters that have not yet been paid for.
* To view and change subscription details, visit the Square Enix Account Management System and click Select Service on the left-hand menu, and then select FINAL FANTASY XIV.


ALTS OF ACTIVE ACCOUNTS.

Inactive characters are not taking up server space.

"quote from Yoshi...

Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server. "

My god... lol! Keep trying.

Ya then why did the servers reach cap before the majority of people could select their choice? B/c inactive characters/ accounts made up part of the population for each server

[Murugan]

At this point you guys are just arguing semantics.

What you post does seem to pose a problem. If a good majority of people have one active character but created eight when the game was free on their account that is seven potential characters per person that are just taking up space, completely inactive accounts aside. In all likelihood, these are characters that will simply never be used again. Obviously these are being counted since people have been successful in moving them to open a slot and get their friends on their server.

Well if that is the case (which it might just be coincidence) then whatever but that is a seperate issue from what people like Coombah and the OP are advocating.

They want to ship anyone who does not have an active account to Ragnorak. But doing that woudl solve nothing since:

"Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server."

Yes we are arguing semantics. They misunderstand what the issue is, and as a result of that are advocating a dangerously stupid and unnecessary/ineffectual solution to the problem.