Sever Problems start to a fix???????

[Coombah]

I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together.

[Babydoll]

Oh..wow 100 people! That is low I guess they have to balance it somehow though..thanks for the replies guys ^_^

[Answa]

I think you needed just one more interrogation mark. As a result, I don't give a hoot.

[Mishakai]

i was awake when they added the merger page in, literally must of been in first 10mins cause they added 2 other new pages that i was going threw as the other one was for merger was added. i jumped right into the merger page. my server was locked already, the one i'm on already? dont' make sense, my server is empty in my eyes and i doubt the other server they merging could possibly be much more better? don't know really how they are really doing the counts and how it's working but i don't think they should of changed the merge type from the first one. hopefully se can give us a reply soon on if they fixing the problems that this one has.

Without knowing all the technicalities behind how SE is getting this going, look at it from this perspective...

When they start the merger, the first thing they do is merge the character tables of the two servers being merged. Then they offer up the option for people to move.

Problem with that.. Well, depending on your population cap for the new servers, the moment you merge those tables, you may already be at max character population, until people move off of the server. EDIT: This is also supported by the fact that initial server selection is 18 days long, not a single day event.

With you stating that within minutes, servers were showing as full, I am pretty sure that is the case. I hight doubt ever other player in every other timezone out of the US was able to queue their transfer selection within the first 10 minutes of the page being live (not impossible, but highly improbable).

Add the what? 30 min - 1 hour delay between Lodestone and the servers..

That's really one of the main reasons I feel a lot of people are coming to an incorrect conclusion based on their observations..

But I digress.. if you all would rather argue ad nausium about it.. who am I to stop ya? Not trying to start arguments or anything, just offering a more thought out point of view that isn't jumping to a rash conclusion.

EDIT2: It would be nice if some of the people more affluent in the Japanese language (where's Reinhart) could verify wheter or not the Japanese players are reporting the same thing with servers being full immediately after the page going live, that would at least rule out the "we got screwed by timezones" argument.

[Murugan]

I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together.

That's not what is happening jesus christ you people.

The servers are being BALANCED, they are all closed but Ragnorak because only 5 people in the entire world wanted to go to a regional specific EU server.

Once they close the abortion that was Ragnorak, or enough people go there the cap will be raised again.

INACTIVE ACCOUNTS ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN DECIDING THE SERVER CAPS.

So stop advocating that a bunch of people who simply didn't want to pay for the game in its current state should be shipped off to exile on Ragnorak for no reason at all.

[Coombah]

That's not what is happening jesus christ you people.

The servers are being BALANCED, they are all closed but Ragnorak because only 5 people in the entire world wanted to go to a regional specific EU server.

Once they close the abortion that was Ragnorak, or enough people go there the cap will be raised again.

INACTIVE ACCOUNTS ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN DECIDING THE SERVER CAPS.

So stop advocating that a bunch of people who simply didn't want to pay for the game in its current state should be shipped off to exile on Ragnorak for no reason at all.

No one is saying it's inactive accounts..Its the active and inactive characters on accounts! Skill up your reading comprehension

[SilverPhantom]

That's not what is happening jesus christ you people.

The servers are being BALANCED, they are all closed but Ragnorak because only 5 people in the entire world wanted to go to a regional specific EU server.

Once they close the abortion that was Ragnorak, or enough people go there the cap will be raised again.

INACTIVE ACCOUNTS ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN DECIDING THE SERVER CAPS.

So stop advocating that a bunch of people who simply didn't want to pay for the game in its current state should be shipped off to exile on Ragnorak for no reason at all.

No what people don't get is its not the inactive accounts that are filling up the population on servers its the inactive alts that can be transferred along with your active character. SE dropped the ball on the part where it should be the active accounts that count towards the pop cap not the active main character & active/inactive alts since you can't play an alt and your main character at the same time on one account. and like we stated earlier that it is the active and inactive alts/mauls that take up spots cause some of us had to move a couple of alts to the EU server so we could get are remaining member on to the server we want to move too.

And case you didn't get it the 1st time its characters and alts not the bloody accounts so SE needs to fix it so that you can only transfer character that are being payed for then that should free up some room and put some nice chunk of change in SE bank accounts

[Murugan]

No what people don't get is its not the inactive accounts that are filling up the population on servers its the inactive alts that can be transferred along with your active character. SE dropped the ball on the part where it should be the active accounts that count towards the pop cap not the active main character & active/inactive alts since you can't play an alt and your main character at the same time on one account. and like we stated earlier that it is the active and inactive alts/mauls that take up spots cause some of us had to move a couple of alts to the EU server so we could get are remaining member on to the server we want to move too.

And case you didn't get it the 1st time its characters and alts not the bloody accounts so SE needs to fix it so that you can only transfer character that are being payed for then that should free up some room and put some nice chunk of change in SE bank accounts

Read the OP this entire thread is about shipping people with inactive accounts off to another server as a means to fix the cap, when that has nothing to do with the cap in the first place.

No one is saying it's inactive accounts..Its the active and inactive characters on accounts! Skill up your reading comprehension

I think you are the one in need of an english lesson my friend, because this is what you wrote:

"I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together."

Which is clearly not talking about alts...

[blackreaper]

Read the OP this entire thread is about shipping people with inactive accounts off to another server as a means to fix the cap, when that has nothing to do with the cap in the first place.



I think you are the one in need of an english lesson my friend, because this is what you wrote:

"I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together."

Which is clearly not talking about alts...

This thread has evolved.

[SilverPhantom]

Read the OP this entire thread is about shipping people with inactive accounts off to another server as a means to fix the cap, when that has nothing to do with the cap in the first place.



I think you are the one in need of an english lesson my friend, because this is what you wrote:

"I agree with Wynn's last post and Webble I dont want people to loose their time put into their character but they should be moved off the servers untill they become active again and let people whom are paying get the ability to choose the server they wish. Thats the whole reason for the merge so that active players can play together."

Which is clearly not talking about alts...

No you read the OP it includes the inactive alts in the pop cap =P