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    Mikey_R's Avatar
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    Mike Aettir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    With the greatest respect, where is your data, where are you getting this belief that the vast majority of people who want positionals removed don't play the job?
    Because every single time this topic comes up it is always the same argument. I would play Monk but positionals push me away. You rarely see a Monk main who has played the job for an extended period say, while I do enjoy Monk, I wish it's positionals were removed/lessened.

    You can apply the same logic to any job. I'm sure yourself has a job that you do not like to play. Do you often wonder, if only X was changed or Y removed, I might play that job. That is exactly what is happening here. No, we cannot claim to know the whims of everyone, I'm sure there are plenty of people who are indifferent, however, their opinion doesn't contribute to the discussion one way or the other as they just do not care.

    SO really, following the logic and the consistency between the countless threads, yes, it is the players who do not play Monk because of positionals who want positionals removed so that they can play Monk whilst disregarding what the actual people who play Monk want.
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    Kong O'dong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Because every single time this topic comes up it is always the same argument. I would play Monk but positionals push me away. You rarely see a Monk main who has played the job for an extended period say, while I do enjoy Monk, I wish it's positionals were removed/lessened.

    You can apply the same logic to any job. I'm sure yourself has a job that you do not like to play. Do you often wonder, if only X was changed or Y removed, I might play that job. That is exactly what is happening here. No, we cannot claim to know the whims of everyone, I'm sure there are plenty of people who are indifferent, however, their opinion doesn't contribute to the discussion one way or the other as they just do not care.

    SO really, following the logic and the consistency between the countless threads, yes, it is the players who do not play Monk because of positionals who want positionals removed so that they can play Monk whilst disregarding what the actual people who play Monk want.
    and to add to that if they take away the positionals and those people do try it, there's no telling that they will even like the class and now the monk playerbase lost more people because they removed an aspect that people liked and played the class for
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    Miles Floof
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome15 View Post
    and to add to that if they take away the positionals and those people do try it, there's no telling that they will even like the class and now the monk playerbase lost more people because they removed an aspect that people liked and played the class for
    But there is equal chance that they will love and people will flock to it, so again lets stop making up hypotheticals to support our stance
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    But there is equal chance that they will love and people will flock to it, so again lets stop making up hypotheticals to support our stance
    If that is the case I think it's going to have a lot more to do with Masterful Blitz than the removal of positionals.....
    Positionals have always been a part of melee I have a very hard time believing it's what kept people away, especially in earlier expansions when other melees had more of them.

    The stated reason why people didn't play or quit playing MNK was because it was boring and felt like it had lagged behind others.
    Masterful Blitz is the solution to that not the removal of positionals.
    The removal of positionals only make the downtime more boring and less engaging ( on top of less ogcd's too, it's just less overall... ).
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