"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[LittleImp]

lmao get a load of this persecution complex. It's easy to navigate social interactions without breaking the rules or insulting people; if you're incapable of that, that's on you. Maybe spend less time fantasizing about what a poor, ostracized, woebegone soul you are and actually look at your own behavior for like three seconds. No one is obliged to entertain your "negative opinions" at any point, and if you can't uphold the social contract of decorum a community wants - then you're not a good fit for that community. Some places revel in negativity, some places don't. Even 4chan has standards, as low a bar as they are.

"It's easy not to insult people, let me demonstrate by insulting you repeatedly."

I've never seen someone undermine the point of their own post so rapidly, thanks for the amusing read.

[Dewslam]

"It's easy not to insult people, let me demonstrate by insulting you repeatedly."

I've never seen someone undermine the point of their own post so rapidly, thanks for the amusing read.

You're welcome. It is easy not to insult people though - there's always something to be said about personal choice in the matter, responsibility for one's own words and all that. I stand by what I've said in both posts! Truly, I am the great duality of man.

But to address it more directly - and more seriously - when it comes to giving advice or help in game, I might just be lucky but I've never had anyone take issue with pointing out that they've missed a mechanic or strategy that caused a wipe. But at the same time I don't usually call out people or make them feel singled out over it if I can help it; if just to avoid making things awkward. I've always found that directly stating who caused the wipe and why tends to just make people defensive while a more vague "Whoops - so heads up everyone: when you've got the debuff over your head, attack the boss that's the opposite colour of it!" usually goes over better. People tend to be hesitant to be the first to admit they either don't know or forgot how a fight goes when they're in a group of people they don't know. As a whole I'd like to think people respond better to positive reinforcement than negative, but I'm no behavioral scientist.

[linayar]

that's... normal? what does that have to do with my point, I must ask, again?
to reiterate it; the community in the main sub (and basically the game itself) is actively suppressing dissenting voices and different opinions, even different experiences, painting those that don't fit into the hivemind and expectations as bad actors, as trolls, as people that have brought it upon themselves, and for what?
so that they can call themselves a nice and friendly community, just ignore all the toxicity that happens against people deemed 'bad', it's fine to be toxic against those because they deserve it, right? happens over and over again on reddit, happens over and over again on the forums here, even (along with crying that the OF is so bad because it isn't coddling people), but hey!

just talk about those toxic experiences you've had on your mainsub! your post about your tank griefing you for no reason will surely not be filled with people that tell you you deserved it, your endgame healer that you asked nicely to use something other than cure 1 and please do dps? people will surely be on your side and not tell you to mind your own business! doesn't matter that the 15 minute dungeon took 40 minutes because of them, you should've just left lol!
crafting mentor giving out bad advice in NN and you want to make a vent post about getting kicked by them and their clique after you corrected them? deleted, only positivity allowed, you were naming and shaming and inviting harassment, even if you weren't

Why would you expect for people to be on your side? If they're not, then so what?

That said, I took a look at the rules for the main sub, and it doesn't allow you to vent about duty finder/pug experiences. So at least that's one excuse, which is unfortunate, as it just collects the people who would vent under another sub.

I can think of a historic label or two.. or a dozen, used to identify people, that will get you in trouble if you use them (with good reason), while being considered 'normal' back in the day.

Well, we can't change history, nor should we. We can can only deal with the present. And as someone who is living in the present, calling someone a WoW player is a neutral label, while calling someone a WoW refugee is a hit on WoW, not the refugee. Of course, this is assuming that they are WoW players/refugees.

[Michieltjuhh]

Well, we can't change history, nor should we. We can can only deal with the present. And as someone who is living in the present, calling someone a WoW player is a neutral label, while calling someone a WoW refugee is a hit on WoW, not the refugee. Of course, this is assuming that they are WoW players/refugees.

It is a negative regardless of how you try to spin it, because it's an otherwise completely pointless statement. I also play League of Legends. Am I to be referred to as a "LoL player" in FF14, despite me playing FF14 at the time and LoL not coming up as a subject of discussion?

But I'll let you explain in what scenario, ever, this could be perceived as positive. Enlighten me.