"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[SturmChurro]

You can make friends and be social with them try by saying hi and opening conversations if they are receptive then continue .it is really easy you know I pet lalas before I open conversation, if they respond to my pet that means we can go further like real world you know checking if a person is receptive before talking them you k ow,social skills, do you go to strangers and tell him noob get better or just talk to them just like you have been friends with them for 3 years. DF isn’t for social interaction you know and rather have FF14 GM heavy hand than toxic crap we have on wow.

I've been pet or patted several times, and I never respond to them. Thought it was weird. Never knew that was a form of greeting.

[jadeblade]

I've been pet or patted several times, and I never respond to them. Thought it was weird. Never knew that was a form of greeting.

Well if I emote you it means I am interested in you let’s talk, so if I don’t get an emote back, I would consider that person to not to be in the mood, it is the equivalent of look across in a bar checking if there is look back before approaching .

[SturmChurro]

Well if I emote you it means I am interested in you let’s talk, so if I don’t get an emote back, I would consider that person to not to be in the mood, it is the equivalent of look across in a bar checking if there is look back before approaching .

It will happen to me in like a hub, and I'm just thinking like, "who is this person?"..

[Makeda]

This is an mmo in the age of entitlement.

. . .

When I first started, I was a lot more open in my interactions. Now a days I'm only out in the open world to do the few things I need to then I hide at my personal house..

If your baseline for human interaction is to insult other people then yes, you can't be as "open" now here.

I've not had such issues.

But I also have never seen the idea of treating people with decency and respect as "entitlement"...

[Velnora]

This is an mmo in the age of entitlement. The easiest way to get by is to interact with others as little as possible since everyone is offended by everything and SE likes to cater to every little hurt feeling if the "victim" wines loud enough. Can't tell you how many times I've had people scream obscenities (like sexist, borderline racial, and ERP-esque advances) yet they never have anything done to them since they still do it so openly and freely. Yet I get a strike because someone didn't like my corny joke of an LB macro.

When I first started, I was a lot more open in my interactions. Now a days I'm only out in the open world to do the few things I need to then I hide at my personal house. I avoid talking in DFs as much as possible because the GM team treats you as "guilty" even if it's a bogus report filed. I've had to snap at a GM and appeal my case before. If you're deemed "guilty" which you are the second the report is filed, then you can't do anything about it and it's forever attributed to your account.

They intentionally under inform you of whatever offence and use their non-existent excuse of a "privacy policy" to refuse to tell you pretty much anything. This approach makes the GM team essentially look at you like a walking money pile. We're not people. We're just money.

It's hardly even an mmo anymore.

[SomeRandomHuman]

It's hardly even an mmo anymore.

Yep. It's more like an rpg with a minute social aspect to it. The mishandling of many things by the GM team really sucked out a lot of the "fun" in the social interaction. It's more of a social prison if you're brave enough to speak out.

[caffe_macchiato]

This thread is an example of the state of the community in the wake of the ToS clarification. Toxic discussions are pushed out of the game and into off-game platforms, such as the forums and other sites and applications like Discord. You would be surprised at the toxicity of some FCs and FFXIV communities that don't occur in-game. The ToS only pushes communication out of the game and into spaces that are largely unmoderated. Once you peel off the friendly veneer that Square Enix likes to promote, you reveal a lot of mean-spiritedness that exists among the FFXIV player base. Is it because co-op games naturally make people angry at their teammates, or that social games naturally breed social friction? Or is this because Square Enix moved discussion to the Wild West of internet platforms where no one moderates anyway, leading people to become vicious behind anonymity? And is there anything we can do to fix it?

[Velnora]

This thread is an example of the state of the community in the wake of the ToS clarification. Toxic discussions are pushed out of the game and into off-game platforms, such as the forums and other sites and applications like Discord. You would be surprised at the toxicity of some FCs and FFXIV communities that don't occur in-game. The ToS only pushes communication out of the game and into spaces that are largely unmoderated. Once you peel off the friendly veneer that Square Enix likes to promote, you reveal a lot of mean-spiritedness that exists among the FFXIV player base. Is it because co-op games naturally make people angry at their teammates, or that social games naturally breed social friction? Or is this because Square Enix moved discussion to the Wild West of internet platforms where no one moderates anyway, leading people to become vicious behind anonymity? And is there anything we can do to fix it?

When big daddy SE isn't towering over you, the "great community" tends to lose it's luster.

[Lunalepsy]

Oh wow! This thread is STILL ongoing!

[Maxilor]

We can't say GCBTW anymore now it's BCBTW