Housing crisis

[FusiaRain]

Would also help if they put first come of apartment owners over current house owners when moving areas. Plus would be more fair tbh

[Eric_Riot]

I was also thinking, with all these Lotto entries they now a have a log of "Interest" and they can make future updates and know exactly how many people are interested in housing. And maybe with this data they can figure out how much priority they should put into this area of the game.

[Eric_Riot]

Hey Kittyket,

I see your point, but there's no way I'm moving servers to get a house. And I'm not sure others would just pick up and move leaving all their friends and FC. *shrugs*.

[KittyKet]

Hey Kittyket,

I see your point, but there's no way I'm moving servers to get a house. And I'm not sure others would just pick up and move leaving all their friends and FC. *shrugs*.

I can definitely respect that. We're in Germany, but we play on NA server because of friends and stuff. Most people will probably stay where they are at, but newer players who haven't really set roots anywhere yet may be tempted to move and it could clear up some space.

[FusiaRain]

I was also thinking, with all these Lotto entries they now a have a log of "Interest" and they can make future updates and know exactly how many people are interested in housing. And maybe with this data they can figure out how much priority they should put into this area of the game.

They dont really need a log for something even blind man could see lol.

They already know it has extreme intrest just refuse to put much time into adding more zones/spaces

[Eric_Riot]

"They dont really need a log for something even blind man could see lol."

LMAO ROFL!! Well said!

[Evergrey]

-snip- Wow players like you are exactly the reason this is still an issue in game. -snip-

After all these years I doubt it's all of a sudden the WoW players fault.

[Eric_Riot]

As to Server Population:

https://www.gamepur.com/guides/final...er-populations

https://ffxivcensus.com/

Can we add these numbers to the calculations? It sure doesn't feel like 20% chance to get a house.

[Khalithar]

Player housing is awesome when it's done well and the best way to do that is private instances so that people can have their own private space to do whatever they want to. I shall ever be of the opinion that unless every player is able to get a house (with the option to upgrade the size if you have the right amount of gil) the system is and will ever be unacceptable.

Hell my FC has a mansion, we've had one for a few years now and some of us actively hang out there in our down time. But we rarely if ever see any of our neighbors so we just hang out in our little corner of the goblet most of the time. Hell if it were up to me I'd rather the FC have access to a massive private instanced airship like the prima vista from the SB 24m storyline and leave the houses to the other folks.

[Jojoya]

I must apologize for my error on the math. I did screw up those last 2 numbers. Thank you Akiudo. With that said for all the shills in here defending this years long issue, how is the game better by keeping this housing shortage as it is. FFXI had housing for all right out of the gate. This game was made by the same company that has not been able to fix this issue for years at this point. If your internet provider failed to fix an ongoing issue with your internet for years on end would you expect them to fix the issue? If your tv provider failed to provide all the channels you were paying them for would you expect them to fix the issue? I realize that these are not real life issues, but neither are the examples I have provided and yet most of you if you are being honest would likely expect the internet and tv providers to fix the issues with there systems and provide you what you are paying them for without being expected to sit clicking a button for 24 hours multiple times against bots or 3rd party software for a chance at getting some of what you are paying them for, right? So why is expecting this game developer you pay a subscription each month not expected to fix the issues their platform has in a timely manner just like any other industry?

Your timing is off. SE is doing something. We've got the relocation change coming in 6.0 then multiple other changes in 6.1 that includes the addition of another 1440 houses and 4,320 apartments per world. We probably should let those changes get implemented and things settled after then re-assess the situation.

For now, players do have access to housing on every world (except Balmung). There may not be houses available but you can get an apartment. Like real life, sometimes you have to settle for the apartment until you can find an available house.

I always equate that to a theme park ticket - six flags for example. You pay for access to the park, youre not entitled to be able to ride every single ride especially when theres lines and hundreds of other people vying for their rides.

I promise you if you go to a theme park and go directly to stand in line for your favorite ride, you will be doing it that day unless the ride malfunctions and they have to shut it down. Lines are never so long that you can stand in it all day long and never get on the ride. You might miss out on other rides but you won't miss out on the ones you want the most if you prioritize them.

The same is not true of houses here. There are dozens of players who camp placards daily, prioritizing them over other content, and still don't have a house. The theme park analogy falls apart in this case.

As to Server Population:

https://www.gamepur.com/guides/final...er-populations

https://ffxivcensus.com/

Can we add these numbers to the calculations? It sure doesn't feel like 20% chance to get a house.

Those numbers are over a year old. They don't take into account the population explosion we had over the summer.

Lucky Bancho's census is going to be closer to accurate, though it does exclude characters level 60 or under since he can't distinguish between free trial and paid characters. Free trial accounts wouldn't be relevant to this discussion because they can't even have enough gil on an account to purchase an apartment let alone a house, and the number of new players with enough gil to purchase a house on a character that's only between level 50 and 60 would be very small.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t#gid=17026865

Go to the 20211105 tab (that's his counts at the start of this month). Active character count over level 60 is listed in column P. Keep in mind that's characters, not players. While there's less pressure to have multiple characters in FFXIV than some other MMOs, a lot of players do have alts so the number of actual players will be lower.

Another thing that's going to throw numbers off - it is possible for an account to have houses on multiple worlds, just not multiple houses on a single world. We have no way of know how many players are multiple house owners across all worlds, though I imagine that number is fairly small. Still, each house over one on a multiple house account is one less house available to the general population.