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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you think your point 3 is a meaningful obstacle, it's not. HQ crafting and expert delivery generate crazy amounts of company credits compared to other content. SE would have to completely rework the company credit system just to make it an effective barrier to shell FCs (such as removing all credit generation from crafting and Expert Delivery). Even then, a solo "no life" player would still be generating more credits each week than 3-4 average time players.
    Was addressed; they would need to tweak it and balance it. Probably by removing FC credit entirely from delivery systems. And probably by making some kind of cap per player per week. That would be their job to figure it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    3) Require some sort of minimum activity level via the FC's accumulated points (the currency we use for submarines, etc). Make that work in a way we spend that currency automatically to "pay rent". Nothing insane, but enough that a small house would require 3-4 people actually playing the game regularly. Maybe as many as 10 for a large. (This would require tweaking as to how that currency is generated).
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Something you neglected to mention in your previous post about original housing prices were that those prices were intended to bleed some of the leftover legacy currency out of the game economy.
    Fair point, but it was also originally meant that houses would be purchased as a group. Between 4-5 people, 100-200,000,000 has never really been that hard to get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Housing should not be a FC only playground. It should be for every player, just like it is in other MMOs with housing.
    While I agree everyone should have housing, I don't agree to it to the detriment of other systems. Housing is a huge real-world money sink for SE, so spending profits on their upkeep takes away from other things.
    Because of this, instanced is ideal. As with many systems, SE often doesn't program as...elegantly... as other professional MMO companies. They are essentially forcing the game engine to do things it was never meant to do.

    The devs have to pick where the money goes and while I would like to see more public information or even feedback as to how the Mogstation profits are spent, I don't expect it. (as in, I would like to see something like stretch goals on kickstarter where if X amount of dollars are generated via MS, they promise to add an additional ward or something; or even allowing players to vote on what gets developed with their MS purchase).

    Housing is not a core system to the devs, it's a bit of a fluff add on like Ocean Fishing is. As is, if they had to choose between adding even more housing post EW, or another "something to do" like Ocean Fishing or Treasure Maps or whatever, I'd rather the "something to do", because there will never be enough housing to satisfy the player base. I'm still optimistic that the new "fluff" Island thing is instanced housing.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 11-28-2021 at 09:21 AM.

  2. #132
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
    Well I for one at least think that Yoshi wants to make the game the best it can be. I see zero reason why these changes would be a bad thing. I think when presented with resolutions to some pain points in game he would be all ears. I may be wrong but I would like to think he actually wants to fix the issue for everyone in a way that hurts no one and helps everyone else. My two cents!
    The problem is a majority of people only look at a few pieces of the puzzle and assume they can see the entire picture and then stop making an effort to fill in the empty areas then choose to either pretend the pieces found by others not supporting their image doesn't exist or they attack the person poking holes in the image they want. Or sometimes both. It's extremely rare to find any meaningful argument on here and the people on SE's end going through all this have to sift through a lot of slag to find anything worthwhile.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
    Oh so when you gaslight someone, and they react to you it's an issue, but when you attack them first over an issue they are having in game but you don't care about you claim no responsibility the way you act. Got it!
    No one is gaslighting anyone. When your argument runs out, time to attack?
    Also reading your interaction with Milkie, who is a very reasonable person on this forum - You seem to be pretty childish.
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 11-28-2021 at 06:40 PM.

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