Housing crisis

[Moerdeth]

Changes I am proposing. First apologies for editing this post again, with that said I have an idea and I think it would be great for everyone.
Leave the districts the way they are with one exception, make them FC housing districts that also allow current single home owners to keep them. Give these owners the option to keep them as long as they want. Give them an option if they decide to change housing options to receive their gil back in full, and perhaps add some unique item or title like those who have been around since before the calamity.
When homes open up through the 45 day no activity period, or that players choice those housing plots move to FC only lots.
Bring instanced housing to FFXIV similar but better than FFXIV.
Allow players in instanced housing to bring up to 24 people in for private parties, housing comp's, gardening, private content to earn gil, etc!
These changes will exponentially increase crafting and gathering for housing items. It will increase demand for seeds and gardening. You will be able to change your chocobo color in your private home!
You could also possibly pick from multiple skins for your house from, like say waterfront, city, country, desert, space?? There could be maybe a dozen or 2 dozen skins to choose from to give a feeling of uniqueness and style.
This would also increase bag space for those of us storing housing items until we can get a house.
This would also allow players with instanced homes to leave the game for more than 45 days any time they want, and avoid losing their home and housing items for not being subscribed for 45 days thus avoiding the rent you pay to keep your home in the housing district.
Could there be a patch that was like a FFXIV housing reborn, calamity style as an example but could be something unique and more relevant to housing?
I believe Yoshi is willing to make great changes if they don't hurt any players and respecting what they have in game and the work they have put in all while making major improvements for the far greater number of players having a difficult time getting where they want because of the current set up.
I support all of you who have your homes in game already and respect how difficult it was for you to get them. I acknowledge you should be able to keep them, please help the rest of us enjoy this content as well by providing ways to improve the system so we all can enjoy.
Thanks,

[Snorky]

As much as I would like a house of my own, I am content with my little apartment. Is it really so bad as you are making it sound? In my opinion nope. Let's look at other games who have no housing are they still around yes. Having a house is a luxury not a requirement, would I like to be able to get one sure would but it's not going to cause me to 'turn' on this game because I enjoy this game even with the lack of enough housing. It's really not going to make me quit if I can't get one. So while I would like more housing it's really not something the needs to be immediately fixed.

[Sotaris]

I could be wrong but I don't think we have 20M paying and playing characters out there.
I believe they pull the data from 20M created characters which included trial accounts and people who no longer play the game.

In real life I'd guess we're around 3M active players.

[Kes13a]

housing....crisis? you cannot apply a real world issue to a video game where it is essentially a luxury and relatively un needed to play. seriously. there are not 20 million active players worldwide, there are perhaps 3-4 million. that will change your number a bit. a house, in any game, is a luxury, do I want one, sure, but at the

you over exaggerate the needs of the player base end of it, my play time is not affected by lacking a home. I have a lot of ideas for one, but the lack of storage space for my glam items is more of a "crisis" than lack of a house. I doubt this will "turn the player base against them" as most of it simply DOES NOT CARE

as for your sub, if you buy a coffee daily... thats probably what, $4 a day? so your math since you are fond of it, a monthly sub is about 50 cents a day. the active player base is about, again, 3-4 million. not the 20 million you keep tossing around. speaking of coffee... maybe do not drink so much, you seem to be very agitated about something not very worth stressing over. unlike real life, you will not end up starving and shivering on a city street... in a video game.

[Moerdeth]

Looks like everyone like the housing situation. Face meet palm. What a joke!

[Setesh45]

Wow players like you are exactly the reason this is still an issue in game. Perhaps a player who wants to play the housing system in game should be able to do so if they choose. You state that housing does not affect your game play. What if your game play revolves around this in game system but you can't access it. Then does it affect your game play because that it where your interest lies? The game includes this system but according to your math it only affects 99% of the player base and of those perhaps 50% of those people so say 1.5 to 2 million players competing against each other across only 68 servers. So each player is only competing against 29400 players for 1 of 5760 spaces available on each server. This gives you a 0.5% chance of success. And then the 24 hour period you have a chance of getting the land during which you are expected to sit there and click repeatedly for against multiple other players every time a lot happens to one up and then repeatedly. This is a failed system and yes when people waste hours and hours only to be beaten by a bot or a third party system

Don't use your fingers to do math please. xD

[Moerdeth]

Please explain the errors with the math, you mathematician you? You say the math is wrong. Since your so intelligent show the error?? 4 million players currently. 60 housing blocks per 24 units on each of the 4 aetherites = 5760 houses There are 68 servers and if only 50% of the players want a house but I suspect higher then you have 2 million people wanting a house. 68 servers with 5760 houses on each = 391680 houses. 2 million people across 68 servers = 29400/server that are vying for 5760 houses. 29400/5760/100 = 0.5% chance of getting a house over the other players interested. Then you add on to that issue the 30 minute to 24 hour wait period that you are expected to sit and click a sale sign repeatedly against bots and 3rd party software, only to lose and be expected to wait for the next spot to show up only for the same process to play out again is rather frustrating over time. Couple that with the 45 day period a player must be absent for a house to come up means that you can only expect 128 houses to come on the market at best per day if all of the players from that day have been absent for 45 days which is rather unlikely and then your chances are further diminished. So please mathematician show me your math??

[Izscha]

Please explain the errors with the math, you mathematician you? You say the math is wrong. Since your so intelligent show the error?? 4 million players currently. 60 housing blocks per 24 units on each of the 4 aetherites = 5760 houses There are 68 servers and if only 50% of the players want a house but I suspect higher then you have 2 million people wanting a house. 68 servers with 5760 houses on each = 391680 houses. 2 million people across 68 servers = 29400/server that are vying for 5760 houses. 29400/5760/100 = 0.5% chance of getting a house over the other players interested. Then you add on to that issue the 30 minute to 24 hour wait period that you are expected to sit and click a sale sign repeatedly against bots and 3rd party software, only to lose and be expected to wait for the next spot to show up only for the same process to play out again is rather frustrating over time. Couple that with the 45 day period a player must be absent for a house to come up means that you can only expect 128 houses to come on the market at best per day if all of the players from that day have been absent for 45 days which is rather unlikely and then your chances are further diminished. So please mathematician show me your math??

Ok i did not expected that answer but sure.
First, where do you get out your 4 M current players ?
Second, why do you divide the total players ( which is, once again, out of the magic hat ) by servors to determine the %, even if each single servers would have the same numbers of players ( which is totally false ) it would not work like that.
YOur maths doesn't make any sense, you dont calculate your chance of having a house by the number of ppl that do want a house.
That would mean that : Each single person is on the same house all the time clicking on it at the same time and that everyone there have the same chance of getting it, which is false too.
Someone doing 0040 will be way faster than someone clicking on it for exemple.
Bots and autoclikers doesn't improve your chance either, it's just for lazy a** that dont want to camp the thing.
Nothing in your thing do work, and your % means nothing actually.
From the very beginning your logic is flawed.

[Akiudo]

Please explain the errors with the math, you mathematician you? You say the math is wrong. Since your so intelligent show the error?? 4 million players currently. 60 housing blocks per 24 units on each of the 4 aetherites = 5760 houses There are 68 servers and if only 50% of the players want a house but I suspect higher then you have 2 million people wanting a house. 68 servers with 5760 houses on each = 391680 houses. 2 million people across 68 servers = 29400/server that are vying for 5760 houses. 29400/5760/100 = 0.5% chance of getting a house over the other players interested. Then you add on to that issue the 30 minute to 24 hour wait period that you are expected to sit and click a sale sign repeatedly against bots and 3rd party software, only to lose and be expected to wait for the next spot to show up only for the same process to play out again is rather frustrating over time. Couple that with the 45 day period a player must be absent for a house to come up means that you can only expect 128 houses to come on the market at best per day if all of the players from that day have been absent for 45 days which is rather unlikely and then your chances are further diminished. So please mathematician show me your math??

just to point out your error, you messed up calculating the percentages.

assuming your math so far is correct , i.e. 29400~ players per server vying for 5760 houses than that's all the numbers you need and would use. you divide the potential houses through the number of interested players 5760/30000, (rounded the player number up slightly, it's guesswork anyways) this gives you 5760/30000=0.192 . now you multiply this number by 100 and than you slap on the percentage sign.

so 5760/30000=0.192
0.192*100=19.2% (% literally means divided by 100, so it's essentaly the same number as before, just slightly nicer to look at)

so yea, IF your numbers are correct there are 5 people for every house so your chance is in fact close to 20%, still highly limited but not nearly what you suggested.

[Setesh45]

Getting a house sucks, no argument there, but the sad truth is, housing is nearly not used at all. Everybody wants a house, but then the vast majority of players leaves it to rot.
I have several neighbours, I have never seen them, not once have I met them in the last year.

My maybe unpopular opinion is that housing needs to be guild only, no private houses. And instead of investing money into providing everyone with a house they should make the housing areas more fun, more interactive, so people actually have an incentive to go there. Change the housing areas into a permanent festival area, make it similar to the gold saucer.