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    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why this is a bad thing? Don't got nothing nice to say don't say anything at all in the game. Why is that a problem? Why must you feel the need to argue about something in a video game? We are not competing, and having a bad group is not that big of a deal.

    And if you want to "argue' you can do it outside the game through discord or whatever chat consoles people have with people.

    The point is, even if you consider it a fake kindness, that is better than what wow and new world is going through right now. So I will gladly take harsh enforce rules and people just not talking over that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why this is a bad thing? Don't got nothing nice to say don't say anything at all in the game. Why is that a problem? Why must you feel the need to argue about something in a video game? We are not competing, and having a bad group is not that big of a deal.

    And if you want to "argue' you can do it outside the game through discord or whatever chat consoles people have with people.

    The point is, even if you consider it a fake kindness, that is better than what wow and new world is going through right now. So I will gladly take harsh enforce rules and people just not talking over that.
    It totally isn't a bad thing. Coming from many pvp mmorpgs with global chat, the silence and civility in-game is amazing compared to the constant drama 24/7 in those other MMOs.

    I know it's fake cause I talk crap outside of game too, but it is quite nice not to see all talking crap all the time.
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  3. #283
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    Man. What a ride.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    It totally isn't a bad thing. Coming from many pvp mmorpgs with global chat, the silence and civility in-game is amazing compared to the constant drama 24/7 in those other MMOs.

    I know it's fake cause I talk crap outside of game too, but it is quite nice not to see all talking crap all the time.

    Yeah it's all fun and games until you get people having mental breakdowns in shout chat over Ishgard restoration, good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why this is a bad thing? Don't got nothing nice to say don't say anything at all in the game. Why is that a problem? Why must you feel the need to argue about something in a video game? We are not competing, and having a bad group is not that big of a deal.

    And if you want to "argue' you can do it outside the game through discord or whatever chat consoles people have with people.

    The point is, even if you consider it a fake kindness, that is better than what wow and new world is going through right now. So I will gladly take harsh enforce rules and people just not talking over that.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    Cheers !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    Cheers !
    Ah, the essential liberty to swear like a sailor at that one dude who Cure spammed you. If you want your freedom of speech, remember to take with it a side salad of consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Ah, the essential liberty to swear like a sailor at that one dude who Cure spammed you. If you want your freedom of speech, remember to take with it a side salad of consequences.
    https://imgflip.com/i/5uzhlf

    Cheers !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post


    I'm not even a Westerner, BTW.
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  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    Cheers !
    I think that there is a difference between saying that someone can't have an opinion, and between expecting a base level of respect.

    The problem with just letting people run loose on the internet is that you end up with people who are completely deranged and unhinged hijacking it.
    You get a handful of extremely toxic people who just spam and take over the whole thing and then any normal person just ends up not talking.
    Sometimes some peoples freedoms actually compromises the freedom of other people.

    To me this is like not letting people take a dump in the street.
    Yes it's a limitation on your freedom, but I think that we can basically all agree that we don't want the streets to smell like shit.

    The issue is that people who are really toxic just bring the entire thing down.
    If you have a group of five people and everyone is having fun and getting along and then one just starts lashing out it brings the entire thing down for the other four.
    Why is that one person ranting more important than the four having a good time?

    It brings down the entire atmosphere for everyone.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 11-21-2021 at 10:10 PM.

  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I think that there is a difference between saying that someone can't have an opinion, and between expecting a base level of respect.

    The problem with just letting people run loose on the internet is that you end up with people who are completely deranged and unhinged hijacking it.
    You get a handful of extremely toxic people who just spam and take over the whole thing and then any normal person just ends up not talking.
    Sometimes some peoples freedoms actually compromises the freedom of other people.

    To me this is like not letting people take a dump in the street.
    Yes it's a limitation on your freedom, but I think that we can basically all agree that we don't want the streets to smell like shit.

    The issue is that people who are really toxic just bring the entire thing down.
    If you have a group of five people and everyone is having fun and getting along and then one just starts lashing out it brings the entire thing down for the other four.
    Why is that one person ranting more important than the four having a good time?

    It brings down the entire atmosphere for everyone.
    Wow finally something more than "i'm so happy i got fake ppl around me yay".
    Only problem i have with your mindset is that, as usual, toxicity only means "being mean" which is a very narrow way to see this whole stuff.
    And the group thing will always depend of what kind of person is in that group, 3 terrible players and 1 skilled one, if the skilled one say something he's toxic.
    3 skilled player that want to down it fast, last guy that keeps dying again and again and cries if the 3 others says something to this person, is the one dying toxic or that's the majority that expect the bare minimum from him ?
    Pretty sure you will say the 3 skilled while in this group the one ruining the fun here is the unskilled one.
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    I wonder what my boss will think if I claim 'muh freedom of speech' to justify being obnoxious and rude to customers at work.
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