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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    This one right there must be the dumbest thing ever and at the same time the thing that drives ppl crazy the most.
    Anytime you bring politics on the internet you'll have that one guy that will start to blast everything if you dare having opinions that he dont share, and it's not like ppl disagree and that's it that's more like you're me ennemy and i will beat you up if you were in front of me.
    I talk about politic discussion as a whole and every single politic got a lot of dumbs followers, not just the "left/right" stuff made in the US.
    The issue is that one side increasingly is
    gaining influence via crybullying and seeing indifference as 'hate'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    it's about the OP lamenting the fact that any kind of harsh language or arguing can get you gaoled due to the insane self policing the community does, which encourages a crapton of passive aggressiveness instead of resolving the issue in the first place
    There is room in between using harsh language and being passive aggressive. The problem seems to come from both extremes, whereas I suspect many in the community can be comfortable not doing either.

    But if people want to continue to frame it as only those two extremes with no other choice, then I have yet to be convinced to think that passive aggressive is not more tolerable than outright toxicity for the reason I've stated earlier in the thread.
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    Last edited by linayar; 11-20-2021 at 10:39 AM.

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    I have been playing this game on and off for years and I am proud to say I have yet to have someone call me a Racial Slur. Not once.

    Which in most other online games all I have to do is count the minutes between incidents.
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    I mean you can totally discuss problems just can't be a jerk about it. There is a big difference between hey this is the mechanics and you suck at this game.
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    And this thread proves why this game has an obscure side to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    And this thread proves why this game has an obscure side to it.
    This thread just proves it's always the loud ones that draw the bad attention in any kind of fan base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    huh? quoting you directly



    nowhere in OP was any of this mentioned and yet that's what your post very clearly implies, that the OP wanted a license to insult people and that they edited the post later to hide that fact, which is, guess what, a lie you straight up made up




    it's about the OP lamenting the fact that any kind of harsh language or arguing can get you gaoled due to the insane self policing the community does, which encourages a crapton of passive aggressiveness instead of resolving the issue in the first place
    you know, the OP explained the issue perfectly, I don't know why you ask me to explain it to you again



    what the frick is this projection? I'm not the one morally grandstanding and straight up lying about the content of the OPs post, maybe you should take your own advice instead if you don't want to be called out for lying
    Absolutely not true I didn't lie about anything. What reason would I have to lie? There were many people who were discussing this please point out what I lied about? The post got edited I was not the only one who commented on it. The OP wanted to settle thing by being able to fight and argue? Why? Where exactly is the lie?

    Originally Posted by Razdazim View Post
    After having been here since June or July I can say this is the biggest lie that this game's player base tells and I am sick of it. This entire problem is promoted by the heavy handedness of this games harassment policies, making it impossible to have fights and arguments in a attempt to resolve problems that instead encourages passive aggressive behavior that is just as detrimental if not worse. At least when there is fights and arguments people know where another stands, what the problem is instead of attempting to ghost and being child like. If someone has done something wrong, no matter how petty one may perceive it no one is allowed to be critical.

    I am absolutely disgusted, and I hate this concept of people wanting to talk, be social and make friends one minute but without warning having done nothing people suddenly refuse to speak. It's flat out hypocritical and disingenuous.
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    Last edited by Snorky; 11-20-2021 at 10:08 PM. Reason: Added op post that was edited
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    I don't have much time but;
    not a single person aside from you has mentioned that the OP has edited their post to contain a different message than it does now, please provide proof of your statement that others have noticed it, too, or better yet, tell us what the OP originally posted

    note that the OP also said "and arguments" both times which clearly showed to everyone with a bit of reading comprehension that they don't want to insult people without repercussions or reasons, instead it being about, quoting the OP again, "If someone has done something wrong, no matter how petty one may perceive it no one is allowed to be critical."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I don't have much time but;
    not a single person aside from you has mentioned that the OP has edited their post to contain a different message than it does now, please provide proof of your statement that others have noticed it, too, or better yet, tell us what the OP originally posted

    note that the OP also said "and arguments" both times which clearly showed to everyone with a bit of reading comprehension that they don't want to insult people without repercussions or reasons, instead it being about, quoting the OP again, "If someone has done something wrong, no matter how petty one may perceive it no one is allowed to be critical."
    I believe the burden of proof is on you since you are the one calling me a liar. Please check page 18 comments about edits and beyond that posts being removed. Then someone said they doubted it was edited but in the same breath said the first post was posted at the same time as the edit. Omg so the OP edited before the first post how many people read his original post before it was edited I don't know and frankly don't care but YOU calling me a liar I do care about. I have no reason to LIE, personally I have my own moral standards if you don't like it I could care less. Seems to me you don't know the difference between being critical and being rude. They are not equal. I don't know what your problem is and it's your own problem not mine.
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    Last edited by Snorky; 11-20-2021 at 11:58 PM. Reason: Clarification to my accusor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    I believe the burden of proof is on you since you are the one calling me a liar. Please check page 18 comments about edits and beyond that posts being removed.
    LOL
    that posts and subsequent ones were about mods deleting multiple pages of discussion for literally no reason, that's what the poster is talking about, nice attempt at deflection, though
    you'd have known had you actually read the posts and not just quickly skimmed the pages ctrl+f'ing for the word edit

    and no, the burden of proof is on you because you said the OP edited their post to be less inflammatory and 'wanting to be able to freely insult people' as you have said

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Then someone said they doubted it was edited but in the same breath said the first post was posted at the same time as the edit.
    yeah it was edited, I never said it wasn't, but if it had said what you're insisting it said, it would've gotten a completely different response by the people that saw the """real""" post, so what's your point here


    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Omg so the OP edited before the first post how many people read his original post before it was edited I don't know and frankly don't care but YOU calling me a liar I do care about. I have no reason to LIE, personally I have my own moral standards if you don't like it I could care less. Seems to me you don't know the difference between being critical and being rude. They are not equal. I don't know what your problem is and it's your own problem not mine.
    don't lie then? I don't know why people lie and I frankly don't care either, but I know that you decided that, for whatever reason, you were going to make an inflammatory post about the OP about something that could be easily be proven wrong to appear as a good person, at least that's my guess
    I have my own standards, too, which is why I don't like liars and hypocrites (this was basically the topic that got removed and talked about at page 18 FYI)
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