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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    If they don't want to change BW they should just buff duration to 12 seconds. 5 GCDs easy.

    Delirium changes will mean that Delirium + BW combo will nerf MP return unless they increase MP return(they won't lol) since Bloodspiller got you 3200 over 4 gcds and Quietus got you 4400 over 4 gcds.

    With the incoming nerf you are likely to only get 2400 MP return off of 3 Bloodspiller and 3300 MP return off of Quietus.

    If the MP formula stays the same as is DRKS will be regenerating less MP during that window.

    It would be forgivable if Darkside costs were reduced to 2400(the OG HW cost lol) instead of remaining at 3000.
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    It would be forgivable if Darkside costs were reduced to 2400(the OG HW cost lol) instead of remaining at 3000.
    When the "OG" cost was 2400 we had, what, 6k MP? Not quite 7k? Or was the OG cost actually less back then?

    Reducing the MP cost relative to our maximum MP really just means that we bank even more Edge/Floods for Trick Attack, so I'm not sure I want to funnel strength away in favor of frequency that we'll only feel in periodic dumps.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 11-12-2021 at 11:14 AM.

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    Crater's Avatar
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Delirium changes will mean that Delirium + BW combo will nerf MP return unless they increase MP return(they won't lol)
    The "MP restore" on Delirium was only ever meant to replace the MP-per-GCD average of a Souleater combo anyway. 600 MP on Syphon Strike over the course of a 3 GCD combo = 200 per GCD, same as Delirium. It's not really a nerf to MP generation to reduce Delirium to 3 GCDs because you're going to get that same average of 200/GCD by getting back to your regular combo two GCDs earlier.

    (I'm not really sure why Quietus is 500 MP instead of the 300 MP-per-GCD average of the Stalwart Soul combo. My best guess has always been that during Shadowbringers development, they originally intended SS to return 1000 MP instead of 600, it got nerfed partway through development, but nobody really cared about Dark Knight enough to make sure that Delirium was consistent with that.)
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