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    Player
    RyuuKai's Avatar
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    Ryuu Kai
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I've cleared UWU and been progging UCOB lately. While DRK has many issues the main three offenders for me are:

    1.- Living Dead. Healing it is pure pain if you don't have a WHM in your party, specially at 70.
    2.- Dark Missionary. I'd use it more if it wasn't locked at 76. I've been asked to change from DRK to other tank more than once, not having any raidwide mitigation really hurts the party.
    3.- Stalwart Soul. I don't know what the devs were thinking when they locked it at 72.

    I didn't see anyone complain about it, prolly cuz not enough people run ultimates. I don't ask for much, I'd be happy if Dark Missionary was changed so it unlocked at lvl67 or something like that.
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuKai View Post
    I didn't see anyone complain about it, prolly cuz not enough people run ultimates. I don't ask for much, I'd be happy if Dark Missionary was changed so it unlocked at lvl67 or something like that.
    It regularly gets brought up in discussions about the terrible leveling kit that some jobs suffer from but I think most people have just accepted that it's very low on SE's priority list, gotta have those shiny new abilities to unlock during fresh expansion leveling.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    They look at numbers mostly. Since DRK is the most played tank out of the 4 it makes sense to give the other 3 tanks more appeal from their standpoint. Which is why we saw the other tanks get so many buffs and additions compared to DRK.

    I wouldnt expect any changes even with the two week delay. I only hope that this doesnt lower the number of DRK players and turn them away from tanking this expansion.
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    I wouldnt expect any changes even with the two week delay. I only hope that this doesnt lower the number of DRK players and turn them away from tanking this expansion.
    If DrK is to see any positive changes then the number needs to become lower. SE won't do anything about a job that looks like it's successful, no matter how baffling some of the design is.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    If DrK is to see any positive changes then the number needs to become lower. SE won't do anything about a job that looks like it's successful, no matter how baffling some of the design is.
    This. DRK players have to drop the class like a rock, and not use it in raids, replacing it with one of the other tanks. DRK numbers have to be the absolute lowest of all the tanks before they'll look at it, like how it was with AST at the beginning of Shadowbringers.
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    This is unlikely to happen, though Reaper could easily drag a big chunk of player away.
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    This is unlikely to happen, though Reaper could easily drag a big chunk of player away.
    On the opposite i think the DRK numbers will probably drop due to several reasons:

    Paladin looks real sweet now
    Reaper is basically DRK aesthetic X 5 so thematicallly many DKR will go to RPR
    Dark Knight is virtually the same as ShB and barely evolved, heck even TBN is not as good as it once were due to everyone but DRK getting buffs and Living Dead still being garbage despite every other invul buffed to 10 seconds not counting the boring rotation

    My prediction is that many tanks will switch to PLD and eventually some tanks specially DRK will flock to DPS jobs. Healers will grow in numbers temporally to drop to usual numbers after novelty is off
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    Last edited by Bhearil; 11-23-2021 at 08:20 AM.

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    KaliAurion's Avatar
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    Xan Aurion
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I've honestly been pretty discouraged from even playing Endwalker because of what's been going on with DRK. I've been stubborn and stuck to it through StB and ShB but I really don't think I could go through this for another 2 years.

    Another problem is that I'd much prefer to be a tank and the other 3 tanks don't interest me in the slightest.

    Right now I'm heavily leaning towards just skipping Endwalker for the time being until the job design team can get it together..
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  9. #9
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KaliAurion View Post
    Another problem is that I'd much prefer to be a tank and the other 3 tanks don't interest me in the slightest.
    Interesting.
    Why is that?
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    Xan Aurion
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Interesting.
    Why is that?
    Not a fan of the Paladin aesthetic, nor swords and shields. Warrior feels boring (Which is also my current gripe with Dark Knight, felt differently about it in HW), and I can't really explain Gunbreaker but every time I try to like it, I just don't.
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