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    Hysorn's Avatar
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    Laudrian Ravenstorm
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KaliAurion View Post
    I've honestly been pretty discouraged from even playing Endwalker because of what's been going on with DRK. I've been stubborn and stuck to it through StB and ShB but I really don't think I could go through this for another 2 years.

    Another problem is that I'd much prefer to be a tank and the other 3 tanks don't interest me in the slightest.

    Right now I'm heavily leaning towards just skipping Endwalker for the time being until the job design team can get it together..
    I feel you there. I leveled PLD, played a lot with it in fact, and it's sweet seeing how good it will be in Endwalker with all their heals, flashy abilities and QoL changes across the board, but at the end of the day, DRK aesthetics are so much more interesting to me, everything from animations, to lore, to artifacts and artifact armor designs.

    I was raiding with a group of friends but the more I played PLD, the less interested I was in joining them on raid nights while at the same time, I find DRK as if not more boring than PLD when it comes to gameplay, and seeing how things remained LARGELY the same for DRKs in Endwalker, I do feel a crippling doubt settling in about what I wanna play as after I am done with the story and decide to push on some harder content.
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    Last edited by Hysorn; 11-27-2021 at 11:14 AM.

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    Kreyd Lerival
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    For its own sake I hope the Job dies to come back better.
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    DRK needs its Dark Knight Rises/Bane moment.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I'm wondering how high the chances of getting a "rework" are in EW. I'm expecting low though because its not a dps
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    I'm wondering how high the chances of getting a "rework" are in EW. I'm expecting low though because its not a dps
    Tbf, the critical factor is the direction of the change, more so than the role. SE was happy to shallow out Warrior mid-Stormblood, not far off in the patch cycle from Ninja's gutting in Shadowbringers. We just don't get depth added mid-expansion beyond giving back necessary abilities briefly held hostage (Energy Drain, Hagakure, et cetera).
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Adjustements may be possible. Stuff like tweaking values, adding a property to an ability etc.
    I doubt we'd see stuff like changing how delirium works, modifications to the synergies or MP/Blood/Darkside etc. That will only happen in 7.0, if it happens
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Tell they fix it I’m not touching it just like War in Shb
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Technically they can do a full rework mid expansion, they did it with ninja and others, the thing is make them clear that make us wait another 2-3 years with the current gameplay build is unaceptable.
    I saw Kei sato and his team move and do much more for less complains that DRK have so the question is how much they are willing to ignored. If anything is the first time i saw the JP forum sad joking to wait to 7.0 and comment they several sugestions has been totally unatended (specially Delirium, lack of combos-new GCD, shadow skin not coming back and the meme skills we are getting) so i bet for some reason DRK doesn't deserve they attention at all and they don't want/care since it wont affect the amount of subs specially when they just designed RPR with DRK feedback and even some users skills designs.
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    That kind of mentality is what led to the divide between WoW devs and players.
    I am not saying that devs should bend to the player's every whims of course, it'd be a terrible idea. However, they shouldn't be afraid of bringing back abilities, concepts etc from previous iterations.
    If they were to do a big rework mid-expac, they could reuse old animations for new gcds and so on. Would it feel cheap to reuse old animations ? Maybe. But since most of those are beloved and missed by a lot of players, it could be both a cost effective and popular choice.
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SE had a historical bias for WAR up until SB tho. People complained in JP tank forums about anything WAR-related and they patched it the next week.
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