Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

[Murugan]

I think i remember reading somewhere that the set for 1.21 will be obtained through the questline - assuming the lv 50 quest. I expect the quests to be challenging, at least at the level of the quest - particularly the lv 50 one.

We shall see. I definitely hope for a fun, challenging, thematic solo quest series though.

So if AF armor comes from a solo quest series (which we all know given our experience of solo quests in FFXIV will be neither fun or challenging), what is in the 2 dungeons?

Or is it like Darkhold, useless.

[Amsai]

Hello! We received some information about job-specific gear that I'd like to share with you.

It won’t be possible to attach materia to job-specific gear. Job-specific gear will feature stats that are better than gear that is craftable that have more than one materia attached. With that said, we will look into adding new gear in future patches that will have better stats than job- specific gear with multiple materia attached to them.
There was also a question about the reasoning for the job-specific gear being referred to as AF (or artifact gear). While the upcoming job-specific gear is a type of artifact gear, there are plans to have other types of artifact gear in the future, some of which won’t necessarily be job-specific.

This is both good and bad sounding at the same time. Finally it seems that they are making an effort to make U/U armor more than a joke in comparison to crafted and melded armor. But then directly after that statement it looks like in the future they will be undermining this. They either need to make them seperate but equal like melded = stats and AF = trait and ability enhancers, or just make them equal (potentially) and tier them. For instance AF armor = crafted and melded x2 armor, then later they come out with relic armor = crafted and melded x 3 armor, etc etc. Another idea is they could move to U/T gear from dungeons and instances that has to be craftd from rare materials and can be multi-melded. Whatever they do, for the love of God, please dont play favorites with the 2 different systems every patch making one better than the other.

[Wynn]

I think i remember reading somewhere that the set for 1.21 will be obtained through the questline - assuming the lv 50 quest. I expect the quests to be challenging, at least at the level of the quest - particularly the lv 50 one.

We shall see. I definitely hope for a fun, challenging, thematic solo quest series though.

I could have sworn I read this too, which is what I was basing my post on, but I can't seem to find the dev post now for the life of me. I started to think maybe I imagined it until you posted this. I wonder where it went...

It certainly is possible they will make these new quests difficult and requiring a party, but I have my doubts about that.

[Zumi]

It's not going to be. It will be quested easily and, unlike XI, you can level to 50 in a few days here. This will completely marginalize materia and gear as it will no longer be needed. At least, for a few months that is. Just sayin....

It's way easier to level in FFXI then it is in FFXIV. Guess you haven't played FFXI in the Abyssea era. You can go from level 1-99 in about 8 hours on any job. 1-30 if leeching people doing GoV in gusgen or boyada which doesn't take as long at all. 30 to 99 you can leech an FC in abyssea and be capped in no time. Only like 1 or 2 people even need to be killing the mobs and the other 16 can just sit there and leech exp. You can afk for almost all of your leveling too.

Leveling in FFXIV is a pain by comparison.

[Mychael]

So if AF armor comes from a solo quest series (which we all know given our experience of solo quests in FFXIV will be neither fun or challenging), what is in the 2 dungeons?

Or is it like Darkhold, useless.

I would hope a harp. So I can use something other than my voice on Bard. But I'm afraid that'd fall under Job-specific weapons, which we don't get yet..

But you have a point, unless the dungeon gear is meldable, it does seem like there's going to be competition between AF gear vs. new dungeons and/or primal weapons vs. new dungeons. :/

[Wynn]

It's way easier to level in FFXI then it is in FFXIV. Guess you haven't played FFXI in the Abyssea era. You can go from level 1-99 in about 8 hours on any job. 1-30 if leeching people doing GoV in gusgen or boyada which doesn't take as long at all. 30 to 99 you can leech an FC in abyssea and be capped in no time. Only like 1 or 2 people even need to be killing the mobs and the other 16 can just sit there and leech exp. You can afk for almost all of your leveling too.

Leveling in FFXIV is a pain by comparison.

I did fully stop playing XI a while ago so this could very well be the case.

However, I did play for quite a while in the "abyssea era" and I can tell you that it was few and far between the people that were able to leech levels as quickly as is technically possible in XI. It requires everyone else to be ok with you sitting there doing nothing. For most, that simply wasn't going to happen.

[Jinko]

It's not going to be. It will be quested easily and, unlike XI, you can level to 50 in a few days here. This will completely marginalize materia and gear as it will no longer be needed. At least, for a few months that is. Just sayin....

One can only hope, in turn making Yoshida wonder what he was thinking and then completely scrapping the materia system .. or maybe not

I would like to think the new instances are somehow linked to the AF gear, hopefully multiple quests to return to both dungeons to get all gear pieces.

If the gear is soloable them I will be disappointed.

[Zumi]

I did fully stop playing XI a while ago so this could very well be the case.

However, I did play for quite a while in the "abyssea era" and I can tell you that it was few and far between the people that were able to leech levels as quickly as is technically possible in XI. It requires everyone else to be ok with you sitting there doing nothing. For most, that simply wasn't going to happen.

People pretty much shout all day in jeuno advertising FC party for like 50-100k an hour which is almost nothing now. You can even get it free if you do keys, sometimes people will be like hold KIs for me and you get free exp, a couple weeks ago I got a KI held it for the guy my blm went form like 40 to 99 in about 5 hours.

[NoctisUmbra]

They have been spending much more time on these quests for the jobs than any other sort of side-quests we've been getting. That's why I don't find it to be a far stretch of the mind to expect these to be on another tier when it comes to quest challenge.

As for the dungeons, despite what we may think, JSE won't be the only high level gear we continue to get. Besides, the job quests aren't giving the weapons. i think the weapons themselves aren't even gonna be in 1.21. So any new class weapons, as well as gear overall can be expected of the new dungeons.

We'll see what happens.

[Teknoman]

One can only hope, in turn making Yoshida wonder what he was thinking and then completely scrapping the materia system .. or maybe not

I would like to think the new instances are somehow linked to the AF gear, hopefully multiple quests to return to both dungeons to get all gear pieces.

If the gear is soloable them I will be disappointed.

Well while progressing to 50/after you hit 50 and are still searching for AF and job skills, the materia should be helpful. But yeah, i'd hope the gear requires parties, and most of the skills are solo.