I'm gonna say it. cause no one else will.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

???? Please explain to me where I'm wrong here?

The following are something a bit more technical than your favorite Broil spam Read at your own risk:

Have you ever considered that PLD's Fight or Flight only affect some of PLD's actions? Have you ever considered that PLD's Confiteor only affects some of PLD's actions? Have you ever considered looping two part of the rotation instead of just slamming all keys into one window, effectively wasting more than half of their potential? Have you ever considered of to abuse debuff snapshot to ensure you get two buffed Goring Blade?

EDIT: Oh I see you brought in the rotation screenshot, well done! You've done part of your homework! Well then, have you considered that you have to take account on specific encounters? Like how e9s and e10s boss doesn't like to move around and you have to reposition yourself and the boss? Have you ever considered how this will affect your rotation alignment? Have you considered how e11s boss throws out generic PLD's rotation out of window? Blah blah yada yada yada....[snip]

So did you read it? Yes? No? Well, it doesn't matter.

Look, we get it. You want it simple, whether you understand the bigger picture or not. Well there you have it: our current iteration of healer (and possibly in EW). Go back in-game and enjoy them, don't come here to enforce your simpleton playstyle feedback to subforum which is clearly not what people are asking for. If you want to speak up your piece, assess the atmosphere and do your homework accordingly before ruining your own credibility, time and time again.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

If you're able to call Paladin easy then I don't get how healing with more than a 1 button rotation is that hard to you, you can basically ignore the tanks in 90% of content and they'll be fine

Idk maybe some people just find certain things simpler than others. Also tank only has to monitor it'self. Same with old smn rotation, I'm not forced to look at health bars constantly to see if someone is about to int themselves.

Also, you have to remember I come from SMN, I don't want to see anything like that happen to healers, or what old scholar was like. Also micro on the fairy/pet is absolute dog trash and I never want to see that return.

[lisaa]

The following are something a bit more technical than your favorite Broil spam Read at your own risk:

Have you ever considered that PLD's Fight or Flight only affect some of PLD's actions? Have you ever considered that PLD's Confiteor only affects some of PLD's actions? Have you ever considered looping two part of the rotation instead of just slamming all keys into one window, effectively wasting more than half of their potential? Have you ever considered of to abuse debuff snapshot to ensure you get two buffed Goring Blade?

EDIT: Oh I see you brought in the rotation screenshot, well done! You've done part of your homework! Well then, have you considered that you have to take account on specific encounters? Like how e9s and e10s boss doesn't like to move around and you have to reposition yourself and the boss? Have you ever considered how this will affect your rotation alignment? Have you considered how e11s boss throws out generic PLD's rotation out of window? Blah blah yada yada yada....[snip]

So did you read it? Yes? No? Well, it doesn't matter.

Look, we get it. You want it simple, whether you understand the bigger picture or not. Well there you have it: our current iteration of healer (and possibly in EW). Go back in-game and enjoy them, don't come here to enforce your simpleton playstyle feedback to subforum which is clearly not what people are asking for. If you want to speak up your piece, assess the atmosphere and do your homework accordingly before ruining your own credibility, time and time again.

This sounds kind of toxic. Not everyone feels the same way about healers and only your opinion is the correct one and every other opinion is wrong

[Semirhage]

Toxic (noun):
1. Giving Sylphies information
2. Offering to teach Sylphies how to improve
3. Stating or implying that a Curebot could possibly learn anything

Non-Toxic (noun phrase):
1. Telling vet healers to shut up and get out if they don't like it.

[Absurdity]

This sounds kind of toxic. Not everyone feels the same way about healers and only your opinion is the correct one and every other opinion is wrong

You know what else is kinda toxic? Wanting an entire role in the game to be mindnumbingly boring for everyone else because you "want to relax".

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Toxic (noun):
1. Giving Sylphies information
2. Offering to teach Sylphies how to improve
3. Stating or implying that a Curebot could possibly learn anything

Non-Toxic (noun phrase):
1. Telling vet healers to shut up and get out if they don't like it.

You want this toxic ass mess back bro not me.

https://imgur.com/vv7m3wc 3.0
https://imgur.com/5mK833h 4.0

Instead of a guide not made for a dps lite and instead for someone whose job is to focus on healing, and in the meantime do dps but simple dps.
https://saltedxiv.com/wp-content/upl...-opener-v8.png

And still you people insist on trying to complicate it with dissipation but I digress.

[Saefinn]

This sounds kind of toxic. Not everyone feels the same way about healers and only your opinion is the correct one and every other opinion is wrong

Then why don't we design different healers to suit different types of people?

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Then why don't we design different healers to suit different types of people?

They have. Sage. Sage will hopefully only get more complicated for the people who want it to be so. It's not appealing to me, seems like a more complex sch with way more buttons to be concerned with pressing.

[Semirhage]

You want this toxic ass mess back bro not me.

https://imgur.com/vv7m3wc 3.0
https://imgur.com/5mK833h 4.0

Instead of a guide not made for a dps lite and instead for someone whose job is to focus on healing, and in the meantime do dps but simple dps.
https://saltedxiv.com/wp-content/upl...-opener-v8.png

And still you people insist on trying to complicate it with dissipation but I digress.

I have not once, ever on this forum even implied that I want 3.0 WHM back. But keep beating that Sylphie strawman. Ooo, and an extra definition too:

Toxic (noun):
4. Complexity. Any at all.

They have. Sage. Sage will hopefully only get more complicated for the people who want it to be so. It's not appealing to me, seems like a more complex sch with way more buttons to be concerned with pressing

Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis

So complicated. I don't know how anyone will handle it.

[CrimsonGunner]

I'm gonna say it. cause everyone else did.

AFuzzyMu11in , "you must be stupid" probably apply to you as well as seeing you posting a palading rotaion that literally has a 3 part with each part having like 3 + skills to press while calling healers rotation complex.
let me break down the rotation for you during downtime:
glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,

oh wait you want optimal

glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,dia,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,glare,

yes that is the most complex rotation when you don't heal cause it requires you to press a button.

responsibility wise tanks need to focus on positions(cause you know melee positions also count making it a tank tribute to maxing dps output) ,doing mechanics, mitigating raid wide damage, making sure to tank swap in time, keeping aggro(keep their stance on) all that while doing dps at the same time

healers responsiblities: seeing everyone hp and making sure ppl alive, doing mechanics while doing dps.

same level of responsibility maybe a bit higher and yet that healer rotation is too complex? yet when a person ask to have 1 more button (buff/debuff/ or a single dps button cause no other option availble) and suddenly its "NO,ITS TOO COMPLEX YOU WANT US TO BE DPS ,YOU WANT TO HAVE A 10,20,1000 BUTTONS TO DPS,IF YOU WANT TO DPS GO DPS ,ADD THAT BUTTON WILL MAKE HEALERS TO DAMN HARD,I WILL BE FORCED TO OPTIMIZE AND PRESS 2 BUTTONS RATHER THEN 1" like dude chill ,read the comments ,understand the cost and changes people told you 1000 times already no one wants healer to not be accessible they just don't want to be at the bottom floor of the design table catering to you lazy healers who probably only press cure 1 and don't know what cure 2 or even what is ogcd. they don't ask make the healers dps that can heal, they ask that when they dont heal, they will be able to support more then 1 button that do damage.

you have been told numerous times ,you don't spend half the fight healing ,people brought evidence showing you that most healers don't spend half the fight healing and it only gets worse when the party get better , you go through content below savage doing almost nothing, you have dps that can replace you, have a tank that can replace you in that content and you think healing there is required 80% of the time when you barely get a bobo hit unless the tank actually do a big all mobs pulls which last 2-5 sec.

you have people left and right from the community both agreeing to healers being healers and accepting much more well based thoughts and ideas that actually promote healing and support and much more understanding to varied ideas and changes then you.

and yet you dare to call someone else stupid?