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  1. #151
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    If everyone is doing there job then a pull is too large when:
    A. Tank is getting smacked like a wet noodle
    B. Mobs are dying slower then a tree grows
    C. Your Healer is trying to be the entire cast of ER instead of just a healer.
    (1)
    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

  2. #152
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    Ottkins's Avatar
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    Magnus Ottkins
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    Louisoix
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    so much people just want to speed run / rush any content and never even care to see of the rest of the party is up to it. as a tank its extremely frustrating as people liek this never want to communicate and force the way they want to play on you.
    what you think of this?
    Some of us don't have time to throw away.
    Job, studies, other pending obligations looming...
    There's a dungeon to do and I'd rather do it than sit idly by sniffing the flowers.

    I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle, but it never hurts to check how geared/competent the healer is.

    As for people who pull instead of the tank...

    If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
    If they want to tank so badly, I let them.
    (0)
    Last edited by Ottkins; 10-24-2021 at 07:03 PM.

  3. #153
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post

    I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle

    As for people who pull instead of the tank...

    If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
    If they want to tank so badly, I let them.
    Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk to you again...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
    If they want to tank so badly, I let them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    If they want to tank so badly, I let them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    I do big pulls and don't dawdle
    Math doesn't check out maybe you should learn how to actually pull big?
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  4. #154
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    Ottkins's Avatar
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    Magnus Ottkins
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    Louisoix
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk to you again...






    Math doesn't check out maybe you should learn how to actually pull big?
    Trust me, I've dealt with people who just have no understanding of what role they're playing.

    Sometimes I have to slow down, there are healer sprouts who can't handle massive pulls.

    But some people just don't give a damn and run ahead to pull anyway.

    Other times right out the gate someone runs right in anyway instead of staying behind the tank.

    I've had situations where the white mage sprints off to hoard them up and then spam holy.

    Like, hell...
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  5. #155
    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    what's the issue with that, exactly? do 2 AoEs and you have your aggro back
    if people pull too much and wipe, well, at least they tried and everyone might have learned something
    if a healer can't handle w2w in lvl 50 and above dungeons they should practice more - and how do you practice more? doing w2w
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  6. #156
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    I've had situations where the white mage sprints off to hoard them up and then spam holy.

    Like, hell...
    Have you ever considered to think that the WHM was silently communicating to you: "I have better reach with Dia, here! I'll help round them up for you so you can grab them easier with your AoE; this is also where we'll start burning them down!"

    It also helps them to keep up with the rest of the party in term of contributing overall dps so the mob will be burnt sooner. WHMs in particular have less healing tools compared to other two healers to deal with extended pulls; henceforth it is where their slow-startup Holy stuns comes in to substitute that. Waiting 1 or 2 GCDs behind means they will have to heal your more because of that slow startup (you take more beating before the stun comes into play).
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  7. #157
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    SamsaraTrickstar's Avatar
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    Samsara Trickster
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottkins View Post
    Some of us don't have time to throw away.
    Job, studies, other pending obligations looming...
    There's a dungeon to do and I'd rather do it than sit idly by sniffing the flowers.

    I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle, but it never hurts to check how geared/competent the healer is.

    As for people who pull instead of the tank...

    If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
    If they want to tank so badly, I let them.
    You get me.thanks.
    (0)

  8. #158
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    SamsaraTrickstar's Avatar
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    Samsara Trickster
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    what's the issue with that, exactly? do 2 AoEs and you have your aggro back
    if people pull too much and wipe, well, at least they tried and everyone might have learned something
    if a healer can't handle w2w in lvl 50 and above dungeons they should practice more - and how do you practice more? doing w2w
    Respect ,one day you may find your own. If they don't even pretend to respect the tank why will the tank be respectful to them.
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  9. #159
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    Xirean's Avatar
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    Xirean Summit
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    Respect ,one day you may find your own. If they don't even pretend to respect the tank why will the tank be respectful to them.
    Someone jumping ahead and grabbing mobs then bringing them back to your AOE spam is the opposite of disrespect. They are helping you. Accept their help by simply continuing to press AOE buttons like you were before.
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  10. #160
    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    what I truly do not get is; the DPS or healer pulling doesn't mean they disrespect the tank, it's actually the opposite like xirean said. they respect the tank's ability to handle it without issues, but most importantly, to not behave like a baby whose toy fell on the floor
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