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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    While yes it does suck that tanks feel far too much the same, they are fairly well balanced. Yall damn well know 1/2 the community would delve into picking the highest dps and the other 1/2 the easiest to play, devs just want folks to pick whichever they enjoying play rather than picking one cause so so guide says its the best kind of deal.
    Yet i dont see waves of new players trying healers and tanks, what I do see is many tanks and healers saying screw this and change to a dps job, or in the case of the healers going to try the new Sage that makes Scholar looks like crap in comparison.

    Theres a saying that say you can get a horse to the water but you cant force it to drink.

    People just dont like the tank role, be for the responsability, the lack of personal impact outside of keeping the boss on themselves, or a boring and simple rotation, and most of those things can also be apllied to healers too switching tanking the boss for "keeping people alive that dont kill themselves on a mechanic by pressing one of the many instant heals"
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    Last edited by Bhearil; 10-02-2021 at 02:00 AM.

  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Yet i dont see waves of new players trying healers and tanks, what I do see is many tanks and healers saying screw this and change to a dps job, or in the case of the healers going to try the new Sage that makes Scholar looks like crap in comparison
    A lot of people starting playing tanks with ShB. You just don't see them crying all day on the forums. The tank playerbase is still going strong, even if you don't like it.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    A lot of people starting playing tanks with ShB. You just don't see them crying all day on the forums. The tank playerbase is still going strong, even if you don't like it.
    Yeah, so strong that when I play tank I get matched in party in less than 5 seconds average, im surprised it doesnt happen as well on my dps jobs and sometimes even my healers gotta wait a while and im certain it is not due to lack of dps players....
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Yeah, so strong that when I play tank I get matched in party in less than 5 seconds average,
    That's... been the norm for longer than I've been playing.
    Tanks having nonexistant quetimes looong predates the any of ShB's new players booms new and these questions are not indicative of the new players choices.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    That's... been the norm for longer than I've been playing.
    Tanks having nonexistant quetimes looong predates the any of ShB's new players booms new and these questions are not indicative of the new players choices.
    Thats the issue I mentioned before: People dont like playing as tank and healer, and making them more "accesible" doesnt seem to make them more popular. Still is worrying that on ShB with a new Tank job, has a similar ammount of tanks than Stormblood that only had dps as new jobs, and only in the very first 1-2 months of ShB were more tanks than usual, and they waned quite fast
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    Yeah, so strong that when I play tank I get matched in party in less than 5 seconds average, im surprised it doesnt happen as well on my dps jobs and sometimes even my healers gotta wait a while and im certain it is not due to lack of dps players....
    There will always be less tanks than DPS so you'll get short queues. The true way to judge tank population are DPS queues, which are shorter now than ever.

    Once upon a time, DPS queues were 30min+ because of the lack of tank.
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    Without statistics = Incoherent assessments.

    When people think that the majority's satisfication is an indicator for anything but, I needn't remind you to take a look at history. Compliance is often mistaken for happiness, and the result can be fatal.

    From an economic standpoint however, the game is successful. That means there's coexisting peace between the developers and their core audience.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Without statistics = Incoherent assessments.

    When people think that the majority's satisfication is an indicator for anything but, I needn't remind you to take a look at history. Compliance is often mistaken for happiness, and the result can be fatal.
    Nice Godwin point mate. Win a lot of arguments on the internet with that?

    Also, guess who has job participation statistics? SE. They must be nice stats for them to keep heading that way with tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    Nice Godwin point mate. Win a lot of arguments on the internet with that?

    Also, guess who has job participation statistics? SE. They must be nice stats for them to keep heading that way with tanks.
    I'm too busy to argue with strangers on the internet. I do appreciate your effort in trying to read my thoughts however. Shouldn't you be busy enjoying your time with the non-existant, satisfied tank crowd you're speaking of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I'm too busy to argue with strangers on the internet. I do appreciate your effort in trying to read my thoughts however. Shouldn't you be busy enjoying your time with the non-existant, satisfied tank crowd you're speaking of?
    I'm sure in your weird doomsayer headcanon is keeping you busy enough, definitely. Tank playerbase is doing fine in game.
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