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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And that's also why I don't like grandfathering in stuff because it creates haves and have nots.
    SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They need to fix it so only one alt/main character can be leader of a FC. The intent was one personal and one FC per server. The one private has been enabled but the problem is FC's purchases are broken and they're done nothing to fix it.
    I’d rather have them not “fix” this. I currently have the leadership of two FCs (both with a house on the same server) where one got passed to me because the leader was absent for more than 30 days. I remember the time when you were forced to abandon a FC because the leader stopped playing and the other members would lose all they had helped to build.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niobee View Post
    I’d rather have them not “fix” this. I currently have the leadership of two FCs (both with a house on the same server) where one got passed to me because the leader was absent for more than 30 days. I remember the time when you were forced to abandon a FC because the leader stopped playing and the other members would lose all they had helped to build.
    You don't need to be the leader of two. Leadership should have been passed to someone else if you were already the leader of another FC. The FC abuse is rampart and it needs to be fixed. How is it that someone else couldn't be leader unless you were the only one left to receive it.

    The intent was/is one FC and one Private per server per account in my view and that certainly isn't what is happening in reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niobee View Post
    SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.
    I certainly agree.
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niobee View Post
    SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.
    Wards are tied to server hardware... that's why forcing restrictions is a necessary solution as this entire cluster isn't going to change significantly once Ishgard comes as we need somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4x as many houses as we do before we get to a reasonable saturation point. It's better for SE to just admit their mistake, eat the losses and force the restrictions on everyone (so we're all the same) as that's going to add more houses back into the housing pool. Same can be said for the FC houses, although that's more an issue with the flaw in the FC system and people making use of creative abuses for the sake of greed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    that's going to add more houses back into the housing pool.
    I'm not sure if adding those houses will make a big impact, personally i don't know anyone who owns more than one house. I wasn't able to find any numbers (only talking about personal housing not shell FCs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niobee View Post
    I'm not sure if adding those houses will make a big impact, personally i don't know anyone who owns more than one house. I wasn't able to find any numbers (only talking about personal housing not shell FCs).
    As long as they exist, there are going to be people asking to have what they have. It'd be an easier long term solution to just end it all at the same time so everyone is equal - preferably after several QOL changes to the housing system that makes multiple houses on the same server for the same account redundant. Tbh, this is really more of a case of "this is why we can't have anything nice".
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