Could we do something?

[Chagur]

So while looking for some available housing in Ul'dah I noticed several homes in one ward all owned by Moon, isn't there something we could do to stop these people with multiple accounts owning different homes as it takes houses away from other players.

[Sotaris]

Not much since they don't really break any rules.

D** move sure but they don't break any TOS.

[Frizze]

Is there something you can do? No. And anything you tried to do would probly be harassment as defined by the ToS. Not worth risking your account over. Move on. Get an apartment for now, and keep looking for a house. More will become available via reclamation over time, and the devs are working to add more new wards of them to the servers.

[lorthera]

there's literally a kotaku article about this group and how they secured the ward prior to mateus becoming a populated server.

[Sotaris]

there's literally a kotaku article about this group and how they secured the ward prior to mateus becoming a populated server.

that article is almost 5 years old and not really relevant in 2021.

When that couple bought the houses no one bought house on Mateus. They were up for sale for months on end.

[lorthera]

that article is almost 5 years old and not really relevant in 2021.

When that couple bought the houses no one bought house on Mateus. They were up for sale for months on end.

yes, i know. i brought up the article to point out how this topic keeps getting brought up over the years lol.

the group has been there for years, longer than most people on mateus. this topic keeps getting dragged up. isn't anything new.

[Jojoya]

that article is almost 5 years old and not really relevant in 2021.

When that couple bought the houses no one bought house on Mateus. They were up for sale for months on end.

It's very relevant to why that specific pair of players has most of a ward to themselves. They acquired those plots fairly under the game rules at the time.

A lot of new players don't realize that before patch 4.2 in January 2018, there were no restrictions on how many houses a single player could own (though there was still the passive 1 personal, 1 FC house per character limit). Players that had acquired multiple houses prior to the rules change were allowed to keep them since they had done nothing wrong at the time they were acquired. Even now, the rules only state how many houses per world a single account can have (still not per player).

If I wanted to put in the effort, I could have 80 houses by having a character on each of 40 different worlds and having a personal house and FC house for each character. I would be doing nothing wrong by the rules of the game even if that means there are 79 other players who won't be able to get a house.

SE really needs to pull its head out of the sand about how bad the ward system is when it comes to serving the needs of players. An instanced system would serve the entire player base and allow anyone who wants to own multiple houses to do it without impacting another player's ability to get a house.

[Almagnus1]

It's very relevant to why that specific pair of players has most of a ward to themselves. They acquired those plots fairly under the game rules at the time.

A lot of new players don't realize that before patch 4.2 in January 2018, there were no restrictions on how many houses a single player could own (though there was still the passive 1 personal, 1 FC house per character limit). Players that had acquired multiple houses prior to the rules change were allowed to keep them since they had done nothing wrong at the time they were acquired. Even now, the rules only state how many houses per world a single account can have (still not per player).

And that's also why I don't like grandfathering in stuff because it creates haves and have nots.

[Niobee]

And that's also why I don't like grandfathering in stuff because it creates haves and have nots.

SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.

They need to fix it so only one alt/main character can be leader of a FC. The intent was one personal and one FC per server. The one private has been enabled but the problem is FC's purchases are broken and they're done nothing to fix it.

I’d rather have them not “fix” this. I currently have the leadership of two FCs (both with a house on the same server) where one got passed to me because the leader was absent for more than 30 days. I remember the time when you were forced to abandon a FC because the leader stopped playing and the other members would lose all they had helped to build.

[Naoki34]

I'm not sure what to make of Yoshi-P and his team's handling of the housing system in FFXIV.

On the one hand, it seems to say housing for all and that it is a social place... LOL... It's often nothing more than a ghost town.

And on the other hand, the players who complain that there is not enough housing for everyone.

They seem to let it go and even excuse certain behaviour which consists in buying all the houses of an entire instance, for Rp or community reasons, or whatever...

All I can think of is that it helps SE to keep a certain number of subscribers at least every 45 days max.

There was no particular announcement on the management of housing concerns, there will be new zones with Endwalker, but everything will be sold within 15 minutes. And this by people who may have prepared a lot of FC to buy a lot of FC's house.