Could we do something?

[Jojoya]

that article is almost 5 years old and not really relevant in 2021.

When that couple bought the houses no one bought house on Mateus. They were up for sale for months on end.

It's very relevant to why that specific pair of players has most of a ward to themselves. They acquired those plots fairly under the game rules at the time.

A lot of new players don't realize that before patch 4.2 in January 2018, there were no restrictions on how many houses a single player could own (though there was still the passive 1 personal, 1 FC house per character limit). Players that had acquired multiple houses prior to the rules change were allowed to keep them since they had done nothing wrong at the time they were acquired. Even now, the rules only state how many houses per world a single account can have (still not per player).

If I wanted to put in the effort, I could have 80 houses by having a character on each of 40 different worlds and having a personal house and FC house for each character. I would be doing nothing wrong by the rules of the game even if that means there are 79 other players who won't be able to get a house.

SE really needs to pull its head out of the sand about how bad the ward system is when it comes to serving the needs of players. An instanced system would serve the entire player base and allow anyone who wants to own multiple houses to do it without impacting another player's ability to get a house.

[Almagnus1]

It's very relevant to why that specific pair of players has most of a ward to themselves. They acquired those plots fairly under the game rules at the time.

A lot of new players don't realize that before patch 4.2 in January 2018, there were no restrictions on how many houses a single player could own (though there was still the passive 1 personal, 1 FC house per character limit). Players that had acquired multiple houses prior to the rules change were allowed to keep them since they had done nothing wrong at the time they were acquired. Even now, the rules only state how many houses per world a single account can have (still not per player).

And that's also why I don't like grandfathering in stuff because it creates haves and have nots.

[Niobee]

And that's also why I don't like grandfathering in stuff because it creates haves and have nots.

SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.

They need to fix it so only one alt/main character can be leader of a FC. The intent was one personal and one FC per server. The one private has been enabled but the problem is FC's purchases are broken and they're done nothing to fix it.

I’d rather have them not “fix” this. I currently have the leadership of two FCs (both with a house on the same server) where one got passed to me because the leader was absent for more than 30 days. I remember the time when you were forced to abandon a FC because the leader stopped playing and the other members would lose all they had helped to build.

[LaylaTsarra]

I’d rather have them not “fix” this. I currently have the leadership of two FCs (both with a house on the same server) where one got passed to me because the leader was absent for more than 30 days. I remember the time when you were forced to abandon a FC because the leader stopped playing and the other members would lose all they had helped to build.

You don't need to be the leader of two. Leadership should have been passed to someone else if you were already the leader of another FC. The FC abuse is rampart and it needs to be fixed. How is it that someone else couldn't be leader unless you were the only one left to receive it.

The intent was/is one FC and one Private per server per account in my view and that certainly isn't what is happening in reality.

SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.

I certainly agree.

[Almagnus1]

SE is to blame for “haves and have nots” because they missed to improve the apartment system and did not add enough new wards with the increasing number of players. It is not the fault of veterans who got their houses by playing by the rules.

Wards are tied to server hardware... that's why forcing restrictions is a necessary solution as this entire cluster isn't going to change significantly once Ishgard comes as we need somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4x as many houses as we do before we get to a reasonable saturation point. It's better for SE to just admit their mistake, eat the losses and force the restrictions on everyone (so we're all the same) as that's going to add more houses back into the housing pool. Same can be said for the FC houses, although that's more an issue with the flaw in the FC system and people making use of creative abuses for the sake of greed.

[Niobee]

that's going to add more houses back into the housing pool.

I'm not sure if adding those houses will make a big impact, personally i don't know anyone who owns more than one house. I wasn't able to find any numbers (only talking about personal housing not shell FCs).

[Almagnus1]

I'm not sure if adding those houses will make a big impact, personally i don't know anyone who owns more than one house. I wasn't able to find any numbers (only talking about personal housing not shell FCs).

As long as they exist, there are going to be people asking to have what they have. It'd be an easier long term solution to just end it all at the same time so everyone is equal - preferably after several QOL changes to the housing system that makes multiple houses on the same server for the same account redundant. Tbh, this is really more of a case of "this is why we can't have anything nice".