One could also encounter wipes on the last bosses of Pharos (pre-nerf) and the Vault.Yeah once again, I don't know what people are talking about when they say ARR or some SB dungeons were hard. It's completely mind boggling. There was exactly 2 bosses I remember as annoying (mind you, annoying, not hard) from when they were relevant content : Demon Wall in Amdapor, and Pharos first boss. Everything else was already piss easy back then.
SB is even more hilarious, people are talking about Bardam, there was nothing remotely difficult about Bardam.
If you think any of that was "difficult", you're closer to the "filthy casuals" you despise so much than you think.
I think the cases made for Bardam and Doma were very specifically about their trash, though, in that they can actually hurt a bit, up from tickling.
All that does is make you stop halfway through the pull if you are undergeared. It's not like it makes you go gigabrain with CC or requires any skill whatsoever.
Make you stop halfway? No.
But it does oblige that, if you full-pull, that people actually keep up with the tank and actually burn things down before your healer and tank CDs deplete.
That's at least a step up from some dungeons since.
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