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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    It doesnt offer you the option to sum up all the damage of yourself or your party members..
    to track like if you are controlling what your party members are doing is personally not a community friendly behaviour.
    In a team based game, my party member's performance impacts my overall gameplay. You know what isn't a "community friendly behavior"? Players who have absolutely no idea what they're doing jumping into Savage and 6-7 other players have to put in a greater effort to push through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    "Without" data, you sound like me - in real life i am working as a performance marketing manager handling tons of data and numbers every day.

    You sure you are playing the GAME or the numbers? Shouldnt people play to enjoy RP / the world / the experience / the battle instead of DATA.. that we shouldnt have access to? (in that form)
    Just saying.
    Different strokes for different folks, my dude. I'm someone who enjoys chasing numbers or "data" if you prefer. I spent hours combing through logs to see exactly what better players than I do and attempt to replicate their performance all for a pretty number. And you know what, I had tons of fun figuring it out and learning from them. What I do doesn't impact you in any way. I'm not using this data to dunk on other players but for my own enjoyment and improvement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    I wonder how i ever could feel that i have to improve myself at certain points without a parsing tool...monitors controls what i and how well other players are "performing". so i dont actually know how that is "needed"... everyone feels if they perform poorly. There are tons of tutorials on youtube how to do your rotations, if you dont have a brain. But you dont need a dps metre for that and you dont have the right to give yourself that advantage over other players (read the EULA)

    And yes, i am "aggressive" against this kind of behaving. Since its against the game rules which we complied with (the EULA is there for a reason)... and it gives you advantages over other players as well.
    And i personally dont want the community which WoW has (due to things like these, that surely play a role in it)

    If you cant accept how the game was designed or you can not accept the EULA quit the game, easy as that.
    You do realize all those rotations on YouTube were made using ACT, yes? Every single guide you come across uses parse data to determine the best rotation. Boss timelines you find on google come from FFlogs. Basically, anything and everything that gives you information on how to play the game better comes from third party programs. Even our materia melding is all determined through parsers. Frankly, a lot of this information should be accessible in game but that's another argument.

    At the end of the day, Yoshida acknowledges the raid community's preference for ACT and while he dislikes it, he allows it to exist in a grey area. Don't harass others and they don't care. You just won't be invited to the Media Tour lol
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 09-24-2021 at 04:04 AM.
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