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    BLU's Magic Hammer has the same description/property.

    It just means you can cast Phelgma then immediately start casting another spell the instant it goes off (Barring any potential animation locks) as it does not trigger the GCD.

    I'm unsure of why they decided to make it that way instead of just a OGCD, though.
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    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
    Pneuma is stated as a 'spell' in the tooltip.
    All spells are on the GCD.
    The 1.5 sec cast time also supports that theory. It just has a separate cooldown unique to the skill in addition to being on the GCD.

    Abilities on the other hand, are oGCDs. Actions listed as an ability like Icarus or Physis II are on the oGCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Pneuma is stated as a 'spell' in the tooltip.
    All spells are on the GCD.
    Not all Spells. Wanderer's Minuet, Mage's Ballad, and Army's Paeon are oGCD Spells and cannot be used when the Bard is Silenced. Although I'm fairly certain those are the only oGCD Spells in the entire game, and only still classified as Spells because SE forgot to change them to abilities when they moved them off the GCD in the transition to Stormblood. Either way, I agree with Pneuma being on the GCD.
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    I mean I hope I'm wrong due to my own aforementioned clunky gameplay complaint. However, currently in game, no action that's actually ogcd has the gcd spin. When you use another gcd ability, they remain solid (energy drain, assize, many many others).

    This isn't the case with phlegma from the showcase. It does grey out and spin on gcd along with every other hard cast ability/spell they have. Maybe the media tour will clarify, maybe its not the final build. In its current form though, all signs point to it also being gcd.

    Plus phlegma is also considered a "spell" if you wanna use the all spells are gcd argument, (except for the strange case of bard songs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
    It is made on GCD so that people won't use it on CD which is the case with Assize. It does the same amount of damage as Dosis III so instead of just giving Sage another AoE oGCD heal with damage reduction, the devs got creative and turned it into an offensive spell that people would benefit from casting only when they actually need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    BLU's Magic Hammer has the same description/property.

    It just means you can cast Phelgma then immediately start casting another spell the instant it goes off (Barring any potential animation locks) as it does not trigger the GCD.

    I'm unsure of why they decided to make it that way instead of just a OGCD, though.
    Doesn't magic hammer have a (short) cast time? It's probably masking the GCD since the GCD already starts the moment you begin casting a spell. You can see the same "does not share a recast time" description in other moves like gnb's gnashing fang and sonic break or even machinist's drill (well it's more that it says it shares a timer with just bio blaster) and they all trigger the GCD as you would expect. Phlegma is gonna trigger the GCD for sure and you're definitely going to notice when it's instant cast.
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