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  1. 09-19-2021 08:52 PM
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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    ????
    Dark Knight always fired off beams of purple energy out of their weapons. This dates back to FFIV. It's also been a feature of the job since it was released in Heavensward. Because nostalgia.

    I'm baffled at the number of people who want me to remember things that never happened. There was someone in the healer forums earlier going on about the things Healers had to do during their week one clears of Gordias. A raid that took over a month for the first clear to happen. I know everyone wants to fit in, but it's incredibly simple for anyone to check if you were actually around back then. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter when you started playing at the end of the day. It doesn't add any weight to your opinions.

    I remember Scourge. But what was it that you liked about it? I'll accept that it looked cool. But what did you like about it from a gameplay standpoint? The fact that it reset your combo? The fact that it was a standalone DoT that most people struggled to break 80% uptime on? The fact that it was 500 potency, and was replaced by Bloodspiller, which was also around 500 potency at the time? I remember Delirium. All three completely different iterations of it. Again, the first one did look cool, and was well designed in the context of the Dark Arts system that existed at the time. The INT down buff was gamechanging, and it was hilarious to see influential naysayers in early Heavensward who claimed that DRK would never be meta eat their words on the first raid tier itself. Stormblood had the worst iteration of Delirium, being both ineffective and contributing to the MP overflow problem that we had at the time. Hopefully they'll just pick a concept and stick with it. Power Slash? I don't remember Power Slash, and you don't either. Nobody used it outside of gpose.

    5.0 didn't remove the 'branching combo'. If you want to argue combo pruning, then 4.0 did that. In 4.0, we lost Delirium as a combo step. But your enmity combo? Who cares? Everyone lost their enmity combo after Stormblood because they weren't being used.

    I know everyone wants to jump on to the forums and just react to the info dump that they've just received, and that's fine. If you want to critically assess current issues in job design and more importantly raid design in the context of the proposed changes, then even better. But I don't understand why there are so many people posting this nonsense about 'remember Heavensward' when they very clearly don't remember it themselves.
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    Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai's Avatar
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    ...To be honest, the original HW Dark Knight does not interest me all that much... My interest was different, and less simple. I want to see a remaster of the most of interest parts about the original HW Dark Knight, not quite the return of it...
    What I want to see is a modern Dark Knight that abandons WAR clone style game-play, to be a mix of a original Dark Knight remaster, and the current things that ShB Dark Knight has... Any person can see that even the original Dark Knight had issues and problems, and I would loathe to see those issues and problems return.

    With no doubt, I can say that the return of the original Dark Knight is not a good idea... I think only that to use the best parts of the original Dark Knight, as a foundation to build up from, rather than WAR clone foundation, is the good idea.

    And to add to what Shin96 did post... Any Dark Knight players that can stomach what Dark Knight has become, may they enjoy it... It was said clear and plain that Dark Knight players similar to myself will be disregarded and ignored, so Dark Knight and its future now lays in the hands of other Dark Knights, not mine. May that go well and end well.
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    Last edited by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai; 09-20-2021 at 06:40 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai View Post
    [...]A much better thing to do with a large amount of actions, too many for a player to use all of the actions, is to create in-class diversity. ...hieh.. my disappointment finds it mind-blowing stupid that FFXIV never did this, and has always done that delete actions nonsense, instead.[...] ------------ [...]"I want you to lower me down into my coffin... so that you can.. let. me. down.. one. last. time." - 6.0 Dark Knight[...]
    [...]"...you want to know.. why I chose to abandon the abyss for the void? ...It is simple. That power of darkness did fail me, so I chose to embrace a new power of the darkness...." - Anahlise, a Reaper[...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    -bunny-
    I have to keep this short so. All I read is basically: "Well why does it matter bla bla nobody did it anyway, it wasn't efficent bla bla". Alright.

    First of all, when I make posts, I don't try to convince anyone. Your response seems like an inner conflict and I do not blame you. You made alot of great posts in the past and did your best to contribute in a positive way yet, we ended up with this version of DRK. You quoted me directly, so I know this is somewhat serious.

    I didn't want you to remember anything. The sole reason I keep posting in this thread is for the reason I made it. Now of course one could say it's useless but I do enjoy reading posts by other people as well, not only mine. Now, this account was made during Stormblood, I used an account during the HW era but this is besides the point.

    Scourge looked cool, it was fun to use when you did, and generally it was fun to apply a dot. It works for GNB, they could have made adjustments anyway, as they usually do for anything that isn't DRK.

    5.0 has removed the branching combo. Fact. Using Souleater in repitition is probably what burns people out, in combo with Inner Delirium. Power Slash was a way to maintain aggro, a system which existed before 5.0 but was heavily altered into a process of simply turning on your Tank stance. How boring.

    I don't even know what to say to all of this. You're basically jumping on me for just saying how much I liked the previous iterations of DRK. You are putting words in my mouth when I never had the intention of making anyone remember anything. Heavensward is in my opinion a superior expansion and it will always be my favourite. Yes, I also loved enmity and I am sorry you hated it. Whatever the reasons may be, it's fine to disagree on this topic but you should probably try to be more reasonable in the future, you always are for the most part, right?
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