Broil

[Nucempow]

I know its just another random opinion, but I think it's fine the way they have scholar right now. I mean, sure, the dps options are boring and limited. But they are trying to make this game appeal to a wide variety of players. And maybe, some people struggle fitting dps in between healing. Many first time gamers start out as healers because their significant other tries to simplify it for them by telling them to just make sure the green bars dont go down.

Now as a big lover of SCH, I get the desire for more interesting damage options. But I wouldn't so quickly forget about the minority of players that struggle with rotations. They should have a class that feels easier to play.

[FoxCh40s]

I know its just another random opinion, but I think it's fine the way they have scholar right now. I mean, sure, the dps options are boring and limited. But they are trying to make this game appeal to a wide variety of players. And maybe, some people struggle fitting dps in between healing. Many first time gamers start out as healers because their significant other tries to simplify it for them by telling them to just make sure the green bars dont go down.

Now as a big lover of SCH, I get the desire for more interesting damage options. But I wouldn't so quickly forget about the minority of players that struggle with rotations. They should have a class that feels easier to play.

A class that's easier to play than the brain deadness of Healers now? I.... that's not possible.

[althenawhm]

They should have a class that feels easier to play.

Thats already what they say about WHM, and its bad design either way.

[Brandedblade]

So we agree, fun isn't a metric as it is "subjective". With Broil casts reduced to 1.5 it is now easier to weave. It also means you will be casting Broil even more. Optimization made even more accessible. Repetition made more prevalent.

So we have a lower skill floor.

And attached to it a lower skill ceiling.

Wether that is a good or bad trade or generally good or bad design is also subjective. I guess some people couldn't care less about the lowering of the skill ceiling. Other people might take it as job design being dragged down to the lowest common denominator.

All matter of perspective I suppose.

That is why this thread and many like it are ultimately futile. The devs put their foot down on how they want to do things going forward and their design philosophy and if you don't like it move on. This is all going to be perspectives and subjectivity at the end of the day.

[Semirhage]

What is fun is a matter of perspective. So yes. I am saying it will still be fun. Everything sch is getting is an improvement over 5.0. So while it isnt the improvement YOU personally wanted. It's still improving. I'm really excited myself because the changes they did mention will make the gameplay flow of scholar far more smoother. We have our lossless healing back because of the additional weave space.

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Is boring. To anyone with functioning brain cells. How the devs, or any players for that matter, find that gameplay loop acceptable is wild to me.

[Rubiss]

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Is boring. To anyone with functioning brain cells. How the devs, or any players for that matter, find that gameplay loop acceptable is wild to me.

I don't know... I find it really fun and engaging when my 70% of my gameplay can be handled by a drinking bird.

[FoxCh40s]

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Is boring. To anyone with functioning brain cells. How the devs, or any players for that matter, find that gameplay loop acceptable is wild to me.

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If you stopped reading that halfway through, you subconsciously think healers are boring and unwilling to admit it out of pride.

[Sebazy]

I'm hopeful that the faster cast broil will help recapture the feel of using fairy GCDs mid cast in the past. That should eliminate then feeling disruptive to the flow of your GCD at least.

If nothing else, it'll make things flow smoother than they do at the moment.

[Boizinho]

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If you stopped reading that halfway through, you subconsciously think healers are boring and unwilling to admit it out of pride.

This could be a fun game to play with people who think healers are great as-is and "healers should heal." Just type out a rotation exactly as FFLogs recorded it, and start a timer. See how long it takes for them to find a healing spell in the cacophony of Glares.

[GrimGale]

That is why this thread and many like it are ultimately futile. The devs put their foot down on how they want to do things going forward and their design philosophy and if you don't like it move on. This is all going to be perspectives and subjectivity at the end of the day.

I guess whining is indeed futile. Devs have ignored us before, and probably will in the future.


I just don't want to shut up and take it. I don't want my silence to be taken as an admission that I am okay with these changes or this two year long situation already. I started posting here back in ShB. I was skeptical about the gutting of our kits back in 5.0. I thought, maybe it could have worked, granted the healing requirements were brought up.

Then the media tour happened and we did not see anything in terms of more damage. If anything it looked like healing downtime was going to be more prevalent.

I am seeing the devs make the same mistake twice. And I really, really don't like that.