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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    To ignore the plight of those one might conceivably save is not wisdom -it is indolence. We must all protect which we hold most dear in the manner of our own choosing.

    Anyway, this is my own opinion as an non-religious person who doesn't have any kids, I am aware that many kids have neglectful or outright abusive parents.

    Mine own were, and there's nothing more soul crushing than when you're a powerless child, and there's nobody who cares, and nobody will help you because "it's not my child".
    I simply wouldn't want kids to go through the kind of things I went through growing up.

    And I have the personal belief that if there's anything I may be able to do, to prevent another person from being hurt, be it a child or no, then I at least must make an attempt.
    If I can at least discourage some of the creeps out there, by scaring those who feel like the eyes are already on them by discussing laws and ToS, because they know what they are already doing is wrong, then I'll give it a try.

    I want this game to be safer for children, and less accommodating/welcoming to potential creeps. We are the community, and we can only be a great community if enough of us try to make it as such.

    And I simply love this game, I don't want it's image to be tarnished, to be seen as "the place that people go to groom, and to ERP with minors".
    Just look how many people meme on male Xaela. That kind of thing sticks.
    That is the thing though at the core no one here is in favor of grooming child, and the game already has tools in place to combat such behavior using the report and ignore function. So why must the community so far as to block as you put it potential creeps? What right do we have a community to bare access of a person from our community simply based around the premise that they are a potential creep? Seems like a weird stance cause if a parent is aware of what their child is doing then they should also be aware of the individuals that play said games and do what they personally see fit to limit potential exposure. That responsibility is solely on them, and not up to the community to police others before they have even done anything harmful. Seems like a weird thing to promote. Overall I get it, but can we say it is truly wrong if SE does not enforce their own rule set?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Society couldn't function if people did not look out for one another. That is just a part of adulthood. It's silly to have a parent sit with their teen just to play FFXIV, because people want to breach TOS.

    I don't take issue to pedophiles that separate themselves from children and get help. I don't really care about ERP, as long as people take real measures to exclude minors, do it in private, and don't force it on anyone. Right now many people even admit they don't take measures. A minor's judgement is not the same as an adult's. That's why they can't consent legally and why responsibility falls to the adults. I don't care about mods, as long as people are private, don't weaponize it, or use it to promote NSFW imagery of minors. But when people do these things, it becomes a major issue.

    Liberty comes with responsibility. SE is more or less not acting all that much, so right now it falls to personal responsibility. If people fail in their responsibility and don't fix their act, SE will be forced to intervene and that liberty is removed, possibly through a method none of us wants.

    So here you have a non-selfish answer and a selfish answer. An adult in society must act accordingly for the benefit of society. As for the selfish, if people don't stop the really bad stuff, we all get hit.
    Not going to lie that largely sounds like fearmongering, the reality is if SE makes a choice that I feel negatively impacts me personally I will just go find another game to play. I do think SE also knows this is why they do not crack down on mods or such behavior. If it is in closed doors then out of sight out of mind. Though I will say responsibility of the adult ends at asking ones age, and asking for consent. I do not feel they are responsible to go any further. and going any further would start lending itself into expecting the community to enforce rules and standards that if the powers at be wanted to be enforced they would have done so themselves.

    I will say this "good" parents do sit around with their child online if they are worried about who or what they will come across while playing a video game, better yet they become involved with their child while playing the game. I have an FC mate that plays the game with their kids because they know what kind of degenerates play. They make time for it even if they are tried or came from a long day at work.
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    Last edited by Awha; 09-10-2021 at 02:10 PM.