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  1. #851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Equally hilarious as watching you make up your own version of what he said. You seem to require some reading glasses, because he didn't refer to having any such power, but to what collective pushback can achieve - and this isn't solely about what's being done in private.

    By the by, in case the stance of the devs is unclear on the topic of how these mods are used:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5648587
    This may come as a shock to you, no one cares what the stance of the devs is or even what the hallowed YoshiP thinks. So you and your fellow puritans can stop wasting your breath about it or screaming "TOS" over and over.

    And you can try your collective pushback all you want, you'll still be as powerless and fake as that guy on TWITter claiming he had 50 accounts banned.
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  2. #852
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasu View Post
    This whole parenting issue has been such a weird and wild take. The responsibility for a kid has always been bigger than just the parent's. That's the whole reason why child protection services and children's rights organizations (which recently have been fighting for laws surrounding online grooming btw) are even a thing. Try and imagine this: some kids don't even have parents.
    I'm not sure why you all keep acting like people are arguing in favor of things like grooming. No ones saying that gov't protection agencies shouldn't protect children from criminals; but ERP and NSFW Mods (even ones depicting fictional child like bodies) AREN'T criminal. They're just potentially vulgar elements of internet life that aren't appropriate for kids, and navigating the inappropriate parts of life for your kid is YOUR job as a parent.

    Lazy parents need to stop trying to pass that responsibility off to strangers.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 09-10-2021 at 08:28 AM.

  3. #853
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I'm not sure why you all keep acting like people are arguing in favor of things like grooming.
    Because strawmen are always easy to knock down. Real arguments, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    At this point I wish SE would just go scorched earth and actually enforce their own rules by any means possible.

    Would be no skin off my bones.
    If they became less lax in allowing any 3rd party tools (parsing, mods, reshaders, cmtool) then the game would suffer because you'd basically be kicking out the modders, gposers, and raiders, people who keep the game alive long past the initial few days to a week after a new patch drops.

    It might not be any skin off your back but it's easy for any person to say "Well I'm not part of x group so whatever happens to them isn't any of my concern"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    If they became less lax in allowing any 3rd party tools (parsing, mods, reshaders, cmtool) then the game would suffer because you'd basically be kicking out the modders, gposers, and raiders, people who keep the game alive long past the initial few days to a week after a new patch drops.

    It might not be any skin off your back but it's easy for any person to say "Well I'm not part of x group so whatever happens to them isn't any of my concern"
    Rather see the game die then become some pseudo safe haven for less then savory aspects of online culture. When have people defending child art as long as it does not look hyper realistic. We have people saying whatever happens to one persons child is not their concern. What is next people defending erp with minors because knowing the truth of one's age is hard to know over the internet. No way to confirm so I will just assume everyone is an adult.
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  6. #856
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Rather see the game die then become some pseudo safe haven for less then savory aspects of online culture. When have people defending child art as long as it does not look hyper realistic. We have people saying whatever happens to one persons child is not their concern. What is next people defending erp with minors because knowing the truth of one's age is hard to know over the internet. No way to confirm so I will just assume everyone is an adult.
    Cool, if you're fine with the game dying then start with yourself, unsubscribe, leave the forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Cool, if you're fine with the game dying then start with yourself, unsubscribe, leave the forums
    is it wrong to say that i feel like this is the op using an alt. based on they said a few pages ago?
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  8. #858
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    It is a communal responsibility to watch out and do what is generally in the best interest for children. They are the future as such we all have a vested interest in making sure they are safe.
    lol, no. I have no invested interest in any strangers children and I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice anything I enjoy to indirectly contribute to their safety. Parents get this weird idea that other people care about their children just as much as they do. No one else is looking out for your kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    is it wrong to say that i feel like this is the op using an alt. based on they said a few pages ago?
    Probably, anyone who's using an alt to post is probably a troll
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  10. #860
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    What is wrong with having a safd space for children to play? It is a T rated game. The position would make more sense for an AO game. What is wrong with being more mindful of potential minors?
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 09-10-2021 at 10:58 AM.

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