Pulling During Cutscene

[Almagnus1]

This is only a problem because SE has decided to add lengthy cutscenes to content people are wanting to farm. Personally I think during the first few weeks, it is courteous to wait for everyone to finish their cutscenes before pulling. Now that we are months and years into most content, I don't really think one needs to wait.

I think we should still wait for them, as waiting for the cutscene (regardless what it is) sets the example for the newer player to follow. Look at it this way, do you want to skip through a cutscene, have a newer player learn it's OK, then have them return the favor to you when you wanted to watch the cutscene?

[TroySoFab]

I think we should still wait for them, as waiting for the cutscene (regardless what it is) sets the example for the newer player to follow. Look at it this way, do you want to skip through a cutscene, have a newer player learn it's OK, then have them return the favor to you when you wanted to watch the cutscene?

As I said, during the first few weeks of content it is courteous to wait. After that, if I wanted to watch a cutscene I would use the book in the inn rooms to watch the cutscene. I like to be respectful of other people's time, some people are looking to farm content.

[Titania40]

As I said, during the first few weeks of content it is courteous to wait. After that, if I wanted to watch a cutscene I would use the book in the inn rooms to watch the cutscene. I like to be respectful of other people's time, some people are looking to farm content.

So, according to you only your experience is important? And nobody new ever joins the game or plays something for the first time more then 2 or 3 weeks after it's release? Imagine that, I must not exist. In fact, the dozens of people I've grouped with in the last 2 weeks must not exist. In every dungeon or trial I've ran, there's been at least one person who had never done that dungeon or trial before. And that's stuff from the base game, which is far more then "a few weeks old." With the expansion releasing soon and the free login event (not to mention free trial through the 1st expansion) there are new players coming in. They have not ran the dungeons before, they have not seen the cutscenes before, and they may well not even know they even have an inn room... let alone that you can rewatch any cinematic you've (in theory) seen in it. Hell, I knew about that and only figured out last week how to access the rest of the cutscenes for a given story arc. I'd only known how to view the first one initially, and didn't figure the rest out until someone ruined my first run through of Thousand Maws by jumping into the boss fight while 3/4ths of the team are watching the cinematic. Which pressured us into skipping it, and ended up causing a wipe.

If your time is so precious that you can't handle waiting for people to watch the cutscenes, why are you using Duty FInder to queue up for random groups to begin with? Shouldn't you recruit a few friends to go with you instead, so you're not waiting up to 50 minutes to get into each dungeon or trial? Especially if you're playing DPS, Duty Finder can take forever. Hands down, I've spent more time waiting for a dungeon then I have waiting for or watching cut scenes.

[Kolaina]

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At some point, you have to realize, as much as you don’t care about another persons time, because of your experience, they equally have the right to not care about your experience as it interferes with theirs. You’re new? Cool. Maybe they have been here since the beginning. How many times have they sat through cutscenes? Doesn’t matter, because now its your turn. Only you matter. But they can’t feel the same way I guess.
If its truly that important, and you don’t want to run the risk, runs premade with some friends. Set up a party finder. Join an fc and rally up some like minded people.
If you feel so pressured into skipping a cut scene because someone pulled, well that’s a personal issue you have and only you can resolve. No one can force you to skip it. Calm down a bit. Everyone getting bent out of shape over a few minutes. Take matters into your own hands to prevent what you don’t want from happening. But lets not try to force our will on others. Not everyone is part of a hive mentality. Not everyone goals are the same. Not everyone plays this game with the same purpose or reason. So lets stop trying to force everyone to conform
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[Trobon]

At some point, you have to realize, as much as you don’t care about another persons time, because of your experience, they equally have the right to not care about your experience as it interferes with theirs. You’re new? Cool. Maybe they have been here since the beginning. How many times have they sat through cutscenes? Doesn’t matter, because now its your turn. Only you matter. But they can’t feel the same way I guess.
If its truly that important, and you don’t want to run the risk, runs premade with some friends. Set up a party finder. Join an fc and rally up some like minded people.
If you feel so pressured into skipping a cut scene because someone pulled, well that’s a personal issue you have and only you can resolve. No one can force you to skip it. Calm down a bit. Everyone getting bent out of shape over a few minutes. Take matters into your own hands to prevent what you don’t want from happening. But lets not try to force our will on others. Not everyone is part of a hive mentality. Not everyone goals are the same. Not everyone plays this game with the same purpose or reason. So lets stop trying to force everyone to conform
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Just don't expect everyone else in the party to sit back and not call you out on it then. Isn't that the original problem here? OP is worried because some people in the parties who didn't agree with a puller making the unilateral decision would get upset and encourage others to block the puller and say its toxic. If you don't want to respect the rest of the group then you get ostracized from the community right? Or I guess if you are so worried about farming things you can always set up a party finder where you have a safe space to pull at your leisure and not worry about those nasty players blocking you for it. Join an FC with like minded players and then you won't feel any pressure from the rest of the group being mean when you pull and put yourself before new players, forcing your will on others.

Also for someone who has been railing on how rude others are in this thread it sure seems like you're being pretty rude here. Of course when you feel you are righteous it is easy to not be able to see your own faults, isn't that what you said?

[Kolaina]

Just don't expect everyone else in the party to sit back and not call you out on it then. Isn't that the original problem here? OP is worried because some people in the parties who didn't agree with a puller making the unilateral decision would get upset and encourage others to block the puller and say its toxic. If you don't want to respect the rest of the group then you get ostracized from the community right? Or I guess if you are so worried about farming things you can always set up a party finder where you have a safe space to pull at your leisure and not worry about those nasty players blocking you for it. Join an FC with like minded players and then you won't feel any pressure from the rest of the group being mean when you pull and put yourself before new players, forcing your will on others.

Also for someone who has been railing on how rude others are in this thread it sure seems like you're being pretty rude here. Of course when you feel you are righteous it is easy to not be able to see your own faults, isn't that what you said?

He thread was about how its not ok to pull, but it is ok to harass and berate people. Just cause I say things you don’t like doesn’t make it rude. Name calling, harassment, sarcasm are example of being rude. Disagreeing with you and saying to accept not everyone will play your way, is not.

[Trobon]

He thread was about how its not ok to pull, but it is ok to harass and berate people. Just cause I say things you don’t like doesn’t make it rude. Name calling, harassment, sarcasm are example of being rude. Disagreeing with you and saying to accept not everyone will play your way, is not.

I wasn't talking about you simply disagreeing with another person. I was talking about your rudeness. Saying someone wanting to watch cutscenes is is not appreciating others' time is, as you put it, indirectly "being derogatory simply because one's views don't align with your own." Saying "Doesn’t matter, because now its your turn. Only you matter. But they can’t feel the same way I guess." is sarcasm towards that person as well. Saying they are "sad" because of it goes a step further.

So derogatory, name calling, and sarcasm all in your previous post.

Honestly your belittling others' opinions and complete disregard for others on here has been rude from the start. From "I'd direct you to your early post, but you won't see it" you've tried to shut down conversations on this thread with the same holier than thou attitude you accuse others of having and have been rude to posters while getting defensive at every slight bit of sarcasm. However, this past post definitely went above and beyond.

I'm done on this thread though. Go ahead and make whatever excuses you want for it and I won't be arguing back. I've had enough of the hypocrisy of people who want to lock others out of a first time experience after getting to have one themselves and then get upset because others call them out on it and say its "harassment" to do so. If you don't want to be called out by others for pulling while someone else is in a cutscene then I guess don't play through DF, that seems to be the main option some of you have been giving others so why not us PF then?