Pulling During Cutscene

[Roeshel]

I snip

I wait before pulling if the player was actually playing during the dungeon, not just being a braindead deadweight, and also didn't make us wait 10 mins to watch the dungeon cutscene at the start.

And tbh I don't remember being called names for pulling early. The last time something like calling out happened was during Alexandar raid and I was playing as a healer, I saw the tanks were hesitant to pull because someone was watching a cutscene, I just broiled and everyone started attacking but there was that one guy, the other healer who said "bro?" and I replied with "yes sis?" and at the end, I got 3 comms. So my impression is that people support their time not being wasted.

Honestly, it really becomes easy to be hostile towards someone who dares to flame for whatever. You can always make the argument of "why should we wait for a toxic little sh*t like you to watch their cutscene" and if they refuse to play if I am a healer I might wipe on purpose so that we can kick them or just keep them dead on the ground.

[MiaShino]

Pffffffff I do so enjoy coming here sometimes because threads like these really demonstrate what brews below the surface of the gcbtw.

I have a solution to the problem though! Alas! There is this small box on your screen with words in it. Some say it is the fabled gasp chat box.

You can use this little window to express your desire or lack of desire to the other non npc players in your party. Do not have time for cutscene? Wish to skip or obtain chests inside of a dungeon? No problemo! This lala over here has you covered!

Just click that little window and type out a message to your party. Inform the new player that you can re-watch cutscenes inside of your inn room. It kinda removes the whole "why did they pull without me" or "why are they making me wait" conflict because well, now everyone understands what is occurring.

Sheesh.. I am beginning to suspect that my partner's pops is correct and many cannot understand that this is not a single player Final Fantasy game. Grow up. I have never ever never seen behavior like this be so fricken common in any other multiplayer game.

Others have mentioned already but this is why we have that little ring at the start of dungeons and trials. It is also why wipes still happen in Labyrinth on the Atmos fight. If you pull before everyone is inside other players are telewarped into alliance A fight.. if too many are new there will not be enough in the other zones.

[Titania40]

The devs have a story they want to tell. It's a story that all players are suppose to experience at their own pace, assuming they didn't just sit in one of the capitals making shoes or chairs for the last few years. So yes, the devs feel that the ability for someone to watch the cinematic for the first time trumps your ability to run the dungeon a couple minutes faster. Why does this fact surprise anyone? Square-Enix has always prioritized telling a story. In most FF games the cut scenes are unskippable. And if they can be skipped, they can only be skipped after seeing it once.

Pffffffff I do so enjoy coming here sometimes because threads like these really demonstrate what brews below the surface of the gcbtw.

I have a solution to the problem though! Alas! There is this small box on your screen with words in it. Some say it is the fabled gasp chat box.

You can use this little window to express your desire or lack of desire to the other non npc players in your party. Do not have time for cutscene? Wish to skip or obtain chests inside of a dungeon? No problemo! This lala over here has you covered!

Just click that little window and type out a message to your party. Inform the new player that you can re-watch cutscenes inside of your inn room. It kinda removes the whole "why did they pull without me" or "why are they making me wait" conflict because well, now everyone understands what is occurring.

Sheesh.. I am beginning to suspect that my partner's pops is correct and many cannot understand that this is not a single player Final Fantasy game. Grow up. I have never ever never seen behavior like this be so fricken common in any other multiplayer game.

Others have mentioned already but this is why we have that little ring at the start of dungeons and trials. It is also why wipes still happen in Labyrinth on the Atmos fight. If you pull before everyone is inside other players are telewarped into alliance A fight.. if too many are new there will not be enough in the other zones.

Not always a working solution. For some reason the chat interface on my PS4 was not working for me tonight, and my bluetooth keyboard had ran out of power just as a dungeon started.

[Seraphor]

It kinda depends on the boss, and the cutscene.
If its a short cutscene that doesn't impact the fight too much, no big thing lost.
But if it's a long cutscene, and a shortish boss, or a boss with a short first phase, then you are robbing that player of content.

Just wait 20 seconds or so. Take your ADHD meds.

[Titania40]

Hell, if the boss has complicated or confusing mechanics then someone watching that cinematic could be a good time to explain them in chat. Not if it's a dialog heavy cinematic, of course. But still often a good time to explain the boss's mechanics.

[Titania40]

You know, something occurs to me. Many others are like me, they queue up for dungeons and trials using Duty Finder because they don't have a network of friends in-game yet. Maybe they are soloists like I am. Maybe they prefer to be grouped for everything, and get annoyed when groups have to disband for instanced story related fights. But they are likely queuing up for the dungeon/trial/raid because it's required for a mission they are working on, such as how the main story keeps getting gated behind doing a dungeon.

If the very idea of waiting for someone to watch the cut scenes on their first time through the story-line offends you so much (general you, not a specific person), why didn't you recruit a preformed group of people who share your dislike of waiting for people to experience the game's story? Do that, and you need never worry about randomly getting grouped with players going through the dungeon for the first time and enjoying the game's story. You can jump strait to the fights without ever considering someone else's experience.

If you are queuing up via Duty Finder, you should expect to regularly get grouped with people who are doing a given dungeon for the first time. Especially if you queued up for the older stuff.

[Juun]

For me it's not about whether someone pulled or not during the cutscene. I never complained about it. But the fact you had to come to the forums to attack people who wait or defend people who are watching a cutscene kinda blows my mind.

I've had several times during my first encounters especially the nier raids, where I had to teleport in and instantly die because mechanics were happening I couldnt see coming. Not to mention the alliance raid where 5 people of team C were watching the cutscene and all had to be teleported in. (into team A's platform).

[Lenivy]

Is it against ToS to pull while someone watches cutscene?

[Hausti]

Is it against ToS to pull while someone watches cutscene?

No it is not.

[Sotaris]

Is it against ToS to pull while someone watches cutscene?

maybe, maybe not. I'm sure there can be argued on both sides.
Don't take away you don't have to be a dick and pull vs waiting but that's me.

I would argue outside of castrum, there are no lengthy cutscenes. 1-2 minutes just isn’t lengthy for me. I am happy to see a cutscene if it is relevant and tells some story. I mean their alternative is to cut the dungeon off and then add a trial for the final boss like the end of Heavansward…fine..but not my taste.

I think biggest normal 4 man dungeons is Stone Vigil and Toto-Rak. But other than that yes.

It is when you are being courteous to the wrong people.

What is the correct people?