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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Exxxxxcept Yoshi-P has gone on record multiple times across liveletters, interviews, etc to talk about how the mogstation team works independently from the main dev team on their projects, and that the stuff they design/create is only intended to ever be sold for $$$. He's also talked about how the Chinese & korean companies that host the game in those countries have commissioned the mogstation team to create time-exclusive outfits for their regions for the sole purpose of being sold as microtransactions.

    Everything the mogstation team does is MADE FOR the sole purpose of being on the cash shop. Full stop, no ifs and/or butts. To believe otherwise is being willingly ignorant to the reality of how the mogstation team operates.

    If you want anyone to blame, Yoshi-P had 5 years since the Creator tier came out to make Cruise Chase a mount, and never did. The mogstation team merely capitalized on an idea Yoshi-P was never going to do.
    How about placing those on the mogstation team, on the development team to increase workflow on art assets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
    You know what is funny? GW2, a game that's revenue is entirely based off box price, and a cash shop, has higher quality outfits, at a quarter of the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    How about placing those on the mogstation team, on the development team to increase workflow on art assets?
    Because then they'd just have to waste time hiring more people to fill the now vacant Mogstation team, obviously. Square isn't giving the mogstation up with the amount of profit it generates.

    In reality, given that the mogstation team's only role is 3D modeling and then the main dev team does the like 5mins of database coding to get the item link activated in-game whenever the mogstation gives them something, it's likely the mogstation team is just a bunch of free-lance or in-between project 3D modelers being assigned there by the CEOs that wouldn't be used to the workflow or project scope of FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Because then they'd just have to waste time hiring more people to fill the now vacant Mogstation team, obviously. Square isn't giving the mogstation up with the amount of profit it generates.

    In reality, given that the mogstation team's only role is 3D modeling and then the main dev team does the like 5mins of database coding to get the item link activated in-game whenever the mogstation gives them something, it's likely the mogstation team is just a bunch of free-lance or in-between project 3D modelers being assigned there by the CEOs that wouldn't be used to the workflow or project scope of FF14.
    "Square isn't giving the mogstation up with the amount of profit it generates."

    It's almost as if those in the community actively support a business practice that hurts the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    "Square isn't giving the mogstation up with the amount of profit it generates."

    It's almost as if those in the community actively support a business practice that hurts the game.
    Welcome to Capitalism. Enjoy your stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Welcome to Capitalism. Enjoy your stay.
    And this is why the industry is shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    "Square isn't giving the mogstation up with the amount of profit it generates."

    It's almost as if those in the community actively support a business practice that hurts the game.

    I mean where is your proof it hurts the game? in fact maybe we get what we have now because of the profits it brings in?


    Nah logic does not work. We really don't know besides what Yoshi P tells us, and im going to trust him over the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    BuT It Can OnLy ExiTs WitH THE CasH sHOP.
    I think it's no use arguing with those people defending the CC on mogshop. They act like they knew everything about the game and the only one with the authority to ask for evidence. Yet when we ask for their evidence they stay silent and ignores the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I mean where is your proof it hurts the game? in fact maybe we get what we have now because of the profits it brings in?


    Nah logic does not work. We really don't know besides what Yoshi P tells us, and im going to trust him over the community.
    I'm not sure what more proof you need other than deliberately creating a separate team, to create cash shop items. They are literally taking away talent, that could otherwise be used on the development team.

    If what we get now is because of the cash shop, that's embarrasing. Especially considering we get LESS content now, than years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    I'm not sure what more proof you need other than deliberately creating a separate team, to create cash shop items. They are literally taking away talent, that could otherwise be used on the development team.

    If what we get now is because of the cash shop, that's embarrasing. Especially considering we get LESS content now, than years ago.

    Again does that hurt the quality of the game? That is the proof Im needing. A business funds, and spends resources on things that brings profits. The fact it is not the same team is a good thing. That means the main team can focus on the game while second team does mog. I'm sorry but I still don't see how anyone can say the cash shop is hurting the game. What proof do you have of that?
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