Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[NanaWiloh]

Given there is more content in the game and added for free then whats on the mogstation. Safe to say the community is just as greedy as SE. Put anything the community really wants on the mog, people will scream how it should be in game. Put something they dont give F about the only people who gripe are those who hate the MOG in general. If you buy a item off the mog while at the same time not wanting too..thats your own lack of self control and weak will power.

[ZedxKayn]

While there's an underlying anti-cash shop sentiment for a lot of people, what crossed a line for many people is specifically that the mount is Cruise Chaser, regardless of its price.

Too much the conversations on that topic derails away from CC, but given what CC is and how anticipated it was, the current content drought, and the amount of content that hasn't been given much love lately, people are definitely allowed to be outraged.

[DPZ2]

While there's an underlying anti-cash shop sentiment for a lot of people, what crossed a line for many people is specifically that the mount is Cruise Chaser, regardless of its price.

Too much the conversations on that topic derails away from CC, but given what CC is and how anticipated it was...

So, you're telling me that SE deliberately added the Cruise Chaser to the cash shop to mess with all those wonderful players this year who are just now getting to feel the delights of the current expansion, Heavensward?

Or, perhaps, those wonderful players are ticked off because data-mining content in this game finds everything (including school uniforms and the Cruise Chaser mount) and they assume it'll show up as an in-game reward, knowing full well that there are no 'special patches' for cash shop exclusive items?

Personally, I think the mount is less than stellar, but I've never really had a thing for mechina-based mounts.

[ZedxKayn]

So, you're telling me that SE deliberately added the Cruise Chaser to the cash shop to mess with all those wonderful players this year who are just now getting to feel the delights of the current expansion, Heavensward?

Or, perhaps, those wonderful players are ticked off because data-mining content in this game finds everything (including school uniforms and the Cruise Chaser mount) and they assume it'll show up as an in-game reward, knowing full well that there are no 'special patches' for cash shop exclusive items?

Personally, I think the mount is less than stellar, but I've never really had a thing for mechina-based mounts.

Can you not see why CC being added to the mogstation would be disappointing, if not insulting, for people who've been looking forward to him, even LONG before the datamine, and some even supporting the game since HW and before?

It'd be alike adding the E4 car to the mogstation. Some people are attached to the bosses and are already spending a lot on the game they currently don't have much to do on.
They shouldn't have to pay so much for a raid boss that's already in the game, especially if for CC's case, the mount was already as good as done through RW.

[DPZ2]

Can you not see why CC being added to the mogstation would be disappointing, if not insulting, for people who've been looking forward to him, even LONG before the datamine, and some even supporting the game since HW and before?

It'd be alike adding the E4 car to the mogstation. Some people are attached to the bosses and are already spending a lot on the game they currently don't have much to do on.
They shouldn't have to pay so much for a raid boss that's already in the game, especially if for CC's case, the mount was already as good as done through RW.

Disappointed, yeah, I can see that. Shrill to the point of "they absolutely shouldn't have put this six year old boss in the game unless they made it a free mount", not so much.

The fact is, its incorporation wasn't a choice of the development team, it was a choice of the Mogstation cash shop team who said "we plan to increase revenue by adding this mount to the cash shop. Development team, please create it according to our specifications". The development team didn't consider it necessary to award it as a mount back in 2015 ... what possible reason would they have to do so six years later?

[Packetdancer]

Can you not see why CC being added to the mogstation would be disappointing, if not insulting, for people who've been looking forward to him, even LONG before the datamine, and some even supporting the game since HW and before?

Realistically, though, I think the only way I can see that they could've added Cruise Chaser to the Alexander raid series as an in-game reward would've been to have it be something you could purchase with the Alexander Exoplating item that you can sometimes get from A12S, and which is otherwise only used to make the Alexander miniature housing item. (So, y'know, a largely useless crafting material.) They could have you trade in 3 Exoplating over in Idyllshire to get the mount. And while I wouldn't have objected to that approach, I suspect there'd be a lot of complaints about having to go back and farm A12S (and fight over Exoplating drops) for the mount, or about how new mounts should be tied to new content, etc. And I feel like it would have to be something like the exoplating; you can't just make it the end-of-tier mount drop, because A12S already drops the Arrhidaeus mount. (With the evil tooltip that will give you "Rock Me Amadeus" earworm.) A4S drops the Gobwalker (which is one of the best mounts). And while A8S doesn't have a mount it drops, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to put Cruise Chaser (from A11) as a drop in A8S, a tier before it even appears.

Now, they could also have made it a drop at the end of TEA -- that would work thematically -- but I suspect there would have been a lot of complaints about such an iconic boss (and eagerly-awaited mount) being locked behind Ultimate content, and people bemoaning that Ultimates already get a really distinctive weapon glamour and a title, etc. Or that they already cleared TEA, but now they have to go back and farm it in hopes that they win the drop for the mount. (Or that locking it behind TEA would only encourage the business of selling clears, etc.)

Personally, I've wanted this mount enough that if they put it behind TEA, I'd go make a static and start progging. I mean, I want to do that anyway, but I'd start trying to do it right now if that was where the mount was. I went and cleared DR savage almost solely because I wanted the dumb dog mount, after all. (Though I actually enjoyed it quite a bit, and am perpetually sad that the Secret Cow Fight that happens between Trinity Avowed and the Queen doesn't exist in DR normal.)

But I suspect I am not in the majority there.

What I actually think might've worked well would be to release it during the Make It Rain event, and put it in the MGP vendor for something like 2 million or 2.5 million MGP, or whatever. That would've made it something you needed to put some effort in to obtain, would've been tied to content that's still relevant (because the Gold Saucer is always relevant), and would also have been accessible. Plus, the mount's even golden-colored, right?? But I'd bet you that same 2 million MGP (okay, more like... 1.67 million, since that's all I have in my MGP wallet) that someone would've started a thread complaining that Cruise Chaser should be tied to Alexander content, and that putting it in the Gold Saucer was a travesty.

Because we, as a playerbase -- like most MMO playerbases -- are not a homogenous blob, and no matter what choice a company makes someone is going to be annoyed by it. And probably also will post that annoyance on a forum or Reddit.

[NanaWiloh]

While there's an underlying anti-cash shop sentiment for a lot of people, what crossed a line for many people is specifically that the mount is Cruise Chaser, regardless of its price.

Too much the conversations on that topic derails away from CC, but given what CC is and how anticipated it was, the current content drought, and the amount of content that hasn't been given much love lately, people are definitely allowed to be outraged.

A certian horse is laughing at the content drought statement. Likely cause it was added when there was no content issue and people still moaned over it.

[DPZ2]

And for those of you who are still complaining about Square Enix not putting enough funding into their favorite MMO, consider that all of the MMO revenue amounts to about 13% of net sales. Note that operating expenses for the MMO are higher than for the other "Digital media" units.

If I were an executive for corporate SE, I wouldn't hear a word of "this game makes the company a lot of money, therefore ..." from players of either of its MMOs. I'd be more likely to say "OK, how can we fund the next set of mobile games, which are cheaper and faster to produce than an MMO".

Net sales: (FY2022/3 Q1)

MMO 11.6 billion yen
HD Games 25.1 billion yen
Mobile 33 billion yen

Amusement 9.4 billion yen [Actual arcades, mostly]

Publications 7.2 billion yen

Merchandising 2.7 billion yen

(source: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/i...22q1slides.pdf)

[ForteNightshade]

And for those of you who are still complaining about Square Enix not putting enough funding into their favorite MMO, consider that all of the MMO revenue amounts to about 13% of net sales. Note that operating expenses for the MMO are higher than for the other "Digital media" units.

If I were an executive for corporate SE, I wouldn't hear a word of "this game makes the company a lot of money, therefore ..." from players of either of its MMOs. I'd be more likely to say "OK, how can we fund the next set of mobile games, which are cheaper and faster to produce than an MMO".

Net sales: (FY2022/3 Q1)

MMO 11.6 billion yen
HD Games 25.1 billion yen
Mobile 33 billion yen

Amusement 9.4 billion yen [Actual arcades, mostly]

Publications 7.2 billion yen

Merchandising 2.7 billion yen

(source: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/i...22q1slides.pdf)

This is actually something Yoshida has cited as a specific reason it's been so difficult to find battle content designers. There is simply far more opportunity and money in the mobile industry, especially in Japan. It sucks to hear for most of us considering how awful and scummy said mobile industry is, but corporate doesn't really give a damn.

[TTiscancer]

This is actually something Yoshida has cited as a specific reason it's been so difficult to find battle content designers. There is simply far more opportunity and money in the mobile industry, especially in Japan. It sucks to hear for most of us considering how awful and scummy said mobile industry is, but corporate doesn't really give a damn.

Is it any wonder people in Japan don't have time for MMOs with the work culture they have. Only the unemployed have time for MMOs in Japan.