Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[InkB]

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

I agree with ZedxKayn, what is the number we should be worrying? 3? 4? Some say its already too late after first one!

If/when its 3 boss mounts are we just going to hear "its too late now, this is going to continue. Please stop complaining you had your chances at CC"?

Like i've said in my previous post. Are we just going to hear people defending this as "nah fam, its just 3 boss mounts. Its not slippery slope at all! (even if it happened 3 times already)"? Spoiler: We are.

[NanaWiloh]

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?

Start complaing when they do one in game and 4 or more going to the mog. Being that it seems to be 1 to the mog every 4yrs and the rest kept in game. I feel its safe to say they wont be going that route anytime. Especially with so many people flaming them about it. As I said earlier love that people scream and cry about things they really want being put on the mog. But when its something they don't want or care for suddenly they are quite...

[ZedxKayn]

Start complaing when they do one in game and 4 or more going to the mog. Being that it seems to be 1 to the mog every 4yrs and the rest kept in game. I feel its safe to say they wont be going that route anytime. Especially with so many people flaming them about it.

Because people flame them and complain about it, they're unlikely to go down that route, therefore there's no reason to complain?

In the end we're paying customers, if we don't like something that happens to the product we're paying for, we're definitely entitled to voice our displeasure or concern as much as we'd like to.

Unlike what some people (not necessarily you) act like, the game isn't free and the content we're getting (or not) isn't a gift out of sheer generosity from the devs.

[NanaWiloh]

Because people flame them and complain about it, they're unlikely to go down that route, therefore there's no reason to complain?

In the end we're paying customers, if we don't like something that happens to the product we're paying for, we're definitely entitled to voice our displeasure or concern as much as we'd like to.

Unlike what some people (not necessarily you) act like, the game isn't free and the content we're getting (or not) isn't a gift out of sheer generosity from the devs.

Thank you for not grouping me with said people. I am not for the mog or against but I do have my line in the sand the mog has just not crossed it yet. I am also just very black and white on this matter. If you are going to complain about one mount on the mog then complain about them all, cause mog only mounts could have been added in game as well. But this can be said for everything on the mogstation..

[Thaciscokidd]

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To address there first line of your comment. I think we must got our lines crossed. I basically said that people need to vote with there wallets but if enough people still buy it though the vocal will be pushed off as the vocal minority in the eyes of the people making the decision.

But on why the CC is on the Mogstation, its just SE trying to make a profits. Even when combined with DQX its at the bottom of the digital earning barrel which is not a good look for either IP when it comes to who matters to SE(not the devs) the shareholders. I love this game, but if you just watch what other companies are doing it would be quicker and more profitable to put funds into the gatcha/loot box market where you can get a proper whale and not a whale that just spent $30 dollars on a one time purchase per account. CC being on the mogstation is far from the worst case scenario. But the next two quarter earning statements(post boost in pop and post EW launch) will help to see where they go with future mog station products.

TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.

[NanaWiloh]

To address there first line of your comment. I think we must got our lines crossed. I basically said that people need to vote with there wallets but if enough people still buy it though the vocal will be pushed off as the vocal minority in the eyes of the people making the decision.

But on why the CC is on the Mogstation, its just SE trying to make a profits. Even when combined with DQX its at the bottom of the digital earning barrel which is not a good look for either IP when it comes to who matters to SE(not the devs) the shareholders. I love this game, but if you just watch what other companies are doing it would be quicker and more profitable to put funds into the gatcha/loot box market where you can get a proper whale and not a whale that just spent $30 dollars on a one time purchase per account. CC being on the mogstation is far from the worst case scenario. But the next two quarter earning statements(post boost in pop and post EW launch) will help to see where they go with future mog station products.

TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.

Going to take a wild guess and say they do consult him. It would be kinda of stepping on his toes to not talk to him first.

[Krotoan]

TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.

From what little he says they interact but the mog station head outranks him (and scares him):
https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/eo...cap-2000106271

Q: Will we get a certain outfit from the mog station?

A: Does everyone want that? Not a lot of response from the crowd. So with the Mog Station it is ruled by a powerful empress. More power than I am. She has mentioned creating this uniform and gear would be very difficult and costly. Basically said if everyone promises to purchase this new item we might consider making it. Would you promise to buy it? (The crowd had mixed reactions). I guess I’ll have to do it.

So if she says it happens.. I'm pretty sure it happens and unless he wants to try and but heads with higher ups (VERY unjapanese) he just lets it go.

[technole]

From what little he says they interact but the mog station head outranks him (and scares him):
https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/eo...cap-2000106271


So if she says it happens.. I'm pretty sure it happens and unless he wants to try and but heads with higher ups (VERY unjapanese) he just lets it go.

Uh no.

YoshiP's official title at SE is Vice President of Creative Business Unit III (FFXIV/XVI teams), and he is on the Board of Directors. Even if he has the youngest tenure on there, he's at the table with CEO Matsuda. Considering MMO is a large line item on the earnings report, he'll do whatever it takes to keep the profits going.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Uh no.

YoshiP's official title at SE is Vice President of Creative Business Unit III (FFXIV/XVI teams), and he is on the Board of Directors. Even if he has the youngest tenure on there, he's at the table with CEO Matsuda. Considering MMO is a large line item on the earnings report, he'll do whatever it takes to keep the profits going.

Even on boards of directors, there is often discrepancy in levels of power between board members, either by achievement or seniority. Being a board director also doesn't supersede decisions made by the board itself, if they had come to an majority agreement to say, tell Yoshi-P to listen to the Mogstation head. I personally doubt it, but I have seen it happen in other companies before, so i wouldn't dismiss the possibility.

Speaking from my time as a game developer that had a separate team who handled microtransactions though, it's very likely the Mogstation head & Yoshi-P co-ordinate and discuss ideas the mogstation wants to do and Yoshi-P signs off on things to make sure the mogstation team doesn't make something the lead dev team was planning to do, as that would be a complete communication failure between teams and just cause issues.

Alternatively, there's a good chance someone on the main dev team has a 'scrapped idea' list they maintain about outfits, minions or mounts they wanted to create and add into the game but couldn't due to various reasons; whether lore, time or 'not feeling right' based, which the mogstation team then scans through and selects ideas based on without input from Yoshi-P.

One way or another, CC was never planned to be in-game, if the mogstation handn't picked it up, it was very likely to be sitting in the endless void of cut content.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

One way or another, CC was never planned to be in-game

Sorry, but it was already.
The model is there. Everything was ready for it to be a mount in game.

They literally just took it from the game and put it behind a paywall.

This delusion that things are made only for or thanks to the cash shop needs to stop.