Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

[Sotaris]

MMO'S have a habbit of putting the coolest and most desired mounts or items behind difficult content or hard grinds.

Hard grind is one thing but top 100 per data center (not server) in a feast season where we already see a problem with bots and wintrading. That's not making it really permanent nor accessable even for the players who are into pvp or hard to achive rewards.

[NanaWiloh]

Hard grind is one thing but top 100 per data center (not server) in a feast season where we already see a problem with bots and wintrading. That's not making it really permanent nor accessable even for the players who are into pvp or hard to achive rewards.

Look at the Ozma mount and say they wouldnt do it...

[NanaWiloh]

Cant edit my post right now. But Omxa may not be a feast mount. But it is getting harder to get it as time goes on. Its also a iconic mount as well. Alongside the ADS module, eden..so on. All these are obtainable in game. Selp and cc are the only 2 on the mog.

[Packetdancer]

Look at the Ozma mount and say they wouldnt do it...

The Demi-Ozma from Baldesion Arsenal is still available now, though. The content you need to get through to get it is grindy, yes, and getting a BA group together is not trivial (though the various Discords out there make it reasonably doable now), but the reward is still available now; no matter how many people clear the Arsenal and get the mount, it continues to be available. The same is true with the Cerberus mount from Delubrum Reginae's savage variant; I have no idea how many of us on my data-center have the Cerberus mount, but I would bet you the numbers are somewhere north of a thousand, and since the reward continues to be available, I imagine the number will only increase.

Conversely, a Feast reward mount is available one time, and one time only, and only for 100 people per data center. If they put Cruise Chaser as a Feast reward mount and only 100 people on Primal could ever get it, and only 100 on Crystal, and so on... I suspect people would have been livid.

[KatieConnr]

Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

..Because that is where they put it?

[NanaWiloh]

Thing is, my point isnt about savage mounts dropping or not. Or how hard it would be to get. Its about iconic bosses with music turned into mounts. Its about using boss models in a way that you try to incite nostalgia, among other feelings, in some players - and try to make them buy it.

For example I know lot of FF8 fans who were literally only doing E12S for the mount because FF8 was their fav FF. Or people doing eureka because they loved FFXI. Or doing bozja for the FFXII stuff. This is what I want from the game. Cool nostalgic mounts in-game to push you do more and help others, not swipe CC (lol) from mogstation.

Anyway im rambling but back to my original point:

Im against usage of boss models for mogstation items. To me, Twintania already felt bit "Eh!?" because it was coils boss thro recruit friend reward (so essentially paid, but not directly). I dont want to see the trend continuing. I dont mind about mounts in mogstation, just make them original, new, not re-used assets and maybe never seen in-game before.

For example a mount that I really dont have issues with in Mogstation is Fat Cat. Yes the minions been there since ARR, but it doesnt feel like middle-finger to see it in store as a mount like I feel when CC is.

And again, if CC is okay why would they stop there? Why not add that E4 model next? Why not make leviathan as mount? Or Ifrit? And no, I dont want those as mounts thro in-game either. But at least CC was close to "would be cool to have" because you can do that in PvP and mechanical bosses are bit more lore-friendly as mounts than primals..

I just hope this trend does not continue.

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

[ZedxKayn]

CC is only the second boss gone mount to be added to the mog. The fact that people are going chicken little over it considering how many there are in game is just mind boggling.

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?

[Thaciscokidd]

And for how many mounts should we wait for until we start being vocal?

You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.

[Alaray]

You can be as vocal as you want. But as long as there is enough people to buy it, being vocal will just be white noise in the background while they count the money that they made.

People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.

[NanaWiloh]

People can be vocal against something they don't like, I don't understand the position of defending monetization practices of corporations. Yes, they'll try and sell whatever'll make them money. Anything.

XIV isn't really immune to the route that lead another company to sell a Dark Portal Pass. I wouldn't put it past the company to try and sell BiS raid gear in the mogstation if they thought they could get away with it, with little pushback from the playerbase. Because, yes: at the end of the day, the corporation only cares about profit generated. Especially when the argument isn't "the mogstation should be deleted" but instead "the mogstation should stick to selling items that are unique to itself, like the Nezha wheels, the fatcat, the nimbus, etc... vs. Cruise Chaser, [or Twintania, even with the RaF bit]. I know I'd be pretty bummed if they chose to put a 30+ dollar price tag on a Bahamut mount, and not offering it as a reward in game for achieving/doing something.

tbh, Cruise Chaser in the context of a mount would've been pretty cool for the BLU Alexander Raid achievement, over the Morbol. Or even just a cool mount to add to the Omega line that has no mount reward for BLU. Or, y'know, as a Rival Wings reward for x wins like all the maps have, or for a lot of Wolf Marks to inject more activity into PvP and provide a light chase item to tide over til Endwalker or so on. If there's 0 critique or vocalizations about CC in Mogstation, then I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to sell a Mogstation Bahamut to capitalize off Bahamut's popularity, iconography, and nostalgia with the players who already play the game. But I wouldn't like to see it, regardless.

I don't want to see the game ultimately consumed by it's own monetization practices, things relevant to XIV in the way things like Cruise Chaser/Alexander Raid Bosses in general or Bahamut/Coils bosses etc... should be obtainable via playing XIV. Things like the Lunar Whale, the Nezha mount, Red Hare, etc... are fine by me to be in the mogstation since they aren't so relevantly tied in with XIV as a game and are more nostalgic fluff pieces, or just new things entirely and still look just fine.

Lunar whale is tied to the game through Endwalkers.