FCs buying multiple plots

[Almagnus1]

Thanks for the link jojoya. Perhaps they could get some used servers from blizzard cheap.

Nah, the hamsters on those will have been overworked and not very much alive at this point... likely poisoned by overexposure to micro transactions.

[Ramesses]

Ok so on a few servers ive visited ive noticed that there are alot of plots taken up by the same FCs, using slightly different names. They all have 1 member in the meaning they are creating FCs buying land then leaving 1 character in the FC making another FC similar name doing the same again. Sadly this is taking up ALOT of plots that are already very limited and they are circumventing the 4 person in an FC to buy a plot rule in place. Can we maybe make it so a minimum of 4 people must be in an FC at all times to own a plot? this would free up alot of plots and stop people griefing others by taking up more than they realistically need.

This doesn't compare to the two players on Mateus server who bought up 28 out of the 30 available plots in an entire ward (Source)

This happened in 2017 or 2018-- and back then, the rage unleashed from the FFXIV community on the forums (and on both reddit and discord) was palatable. And absolutely justified-- especially when there were thousands of players who couldn't purchase even a small sized house.

it was then I finally concluded that the entire housing system was horribly broken.

[Jojoya]

This doesn't compare to the two players on Mateus server who bought up 28 out of the 30 available plots in an entire ward (Source)

This happened in 2017 or 2018-- and back then, the rage unleashed from the FFXIV community on the forums (and on both reddit and discord) was palatable. And absolutely justified-- especially when there were thousands of players who couldn't purchase even a small sized house.

it was then I finally concluded that the entire housing system was horribly broken.

When those two players bought out that ward, Mateus was a dead world. There were available plots all over the place. That's why it had been so easy for them to get almost a full ward to themselves. On any world that had an active housing community, they would have had to spread those houses out over multiple wards.

The rage was coming from players who didn't even have characters on Mateus and weren't willing to transfer there to get a house.

Mateus players didn't start getting upset about it until later, after Mateus was adopted by the RP community as an unofficial second home when Balmung got stuck on Congested status and housing on all worlds had started filling up because of Stormblood launch..

It was not those two players at fault for others not being able to get a house. They did nothing wrong - multiple personal house ownership per account was allowed at the time. They had intentionally transferred to a dead world to buy those houses because it wasn't preventing anyone else on that world from getting a house and there had still been plenty of available plots for other players to buy at the time.

It was SE at fault but as usual, players directed their anger at the wrong place..

[Almagnus1]

It was not those two players at fault for others not being able to get a house. They did nothing wrong - multiple personal house ownership per account was allowed at the time. They had intentionally transferred to a dead world to buy those houses because it wasn't preventing anyone else on that world from getting a house and there had still been plenty of available plots for other players to buy at the time.

It's definitely one of those "you had to be there" moments.

They had their fun, and hopefully they have managed to divest many of their properties so others can join as any NA server is going to be under Housing Ultimate for a long while still.

[Sotaris]

When those two players bought out that ward, Mateus was a dead world. There were available plots all over the place. That's why it had been so easy for them to get almost a full ward to themselves. On any world that had an active housing community, they would have had to spread those houses out over multiple wards.

The rage was coming from players who didn't even have characters on Mateus and weren't willing to transfer there to get a house.

Mateus players didn't start getting upset about it until later, after Mateus was adopted by the RP community as an unofficial second home when Balmung got stuck on Congested status and housing on all worlds had started filling up because of Stormblood launch..

It was not those two players at fault for others not being able to get a house. They did nothing wrong - multiple personal house ownership per account was allowed at the time. They had intentionally transferred to a dead world to buy those houses because it wasn't preventing anyone else on that world from getting a house and there had still been plenty of available plots for other players to buy at the time.

It was SE at fault but as usual, players directed their anger at the wrong place..

This. "It don't affect me but im gonna be mawd cause reasons".

[Nepentha]

It's definitely one of those "you had to be there" moments.

They had their fun, and hopefully they have managed to divest many of their properties so others can join as any NA server is going to be under Housing Ultimate for a long while still.

They have not.

[Sotaris]

They have not.

And why should they?

[SillyCrow]

I think one simple solution would simply to force FCs to retain a minimum amount of active players to retain ownership of the plot.

[Almagnus1]

I think one simple solution would simply to force FCs to retain a minimum amount of active players to retain ownership of the plot.

I've said as much, but one of the counterpoints that gets brought up with that are the couple's FC (like a husband and wife for example) that just want to be by themselves. Real question with this is where do you draw the line for what is (and isn't) considered an acceptable minimum. The main thing people are using solo FCs for are actually the gardens and workshop as that can be a pretty decent passive gil generator if you know what you're doing.

[SillyCrow]

I've said as much, but one of the counterpoints that gets brought up with that are the couple's FC (like a husband and wife for example) that just want to be by themselves. Real question with this is where do you draw the line for what is (and isn't) considered an acceptable minimum. The main thing people are using solo FCs for are actually the gardens and workshop as that can be a pretty decent passive gil generator if you know what you're doing.

Oh, I have a counterpoint for that.

Simply buy a plot as a private estate and then you can have your wife or husband as a tenant with full rights on the plot. The feature already exists; FC housing is not the intended way for couples to share an estate.