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  1. #11
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    Reminds me of link showing the same guy with multiple FCs named like : XXX paladin XXX lancer etc.

    One lass on Reddit, explaining that she likes to create and decorate homes for RP players and managed to buy multiple houses in the same ward. And couldn’t care less if others were homeless filthy peasants. In short, that’s their mindset : extreme greed and selfish.

    The system is already bad enough to have this on top of it. They really should think about instanced housing because all these things do along with their housing supply issue is promoting RMT/Shady stuff and it’s just disheartening for people who simply want to own a single house.
    i dunno if there pop up more RPers for that but there was a story about something similar maybe 4-5 years ago where this group of people bought up a goblet ward (iirc) on a dead server and decorated it.

    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    My own fanclub AND I get to join the Dark Side with cookies and femroes mamas ?

    Well, well, count me in !
    Clearly you need to transfer to the dark side server first, wink wink
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  2. #12
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Careful, if you keep pointing that out you'll get your own hate club that will define you to be the spawn of Zodiark and everything you post to be ThE WoRsT iDeA eVaH.
    It doesn't help that your idea was literally the worst idea ever and everyone you've suggested ever since has been short sighted and ill thought out.
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  3. #13
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarmace View Post
    Can we maybe make it so a minimum of 4 people must be in an FC at all times to own a plot?
    While your idea does sound good, in reality it would probably just punish more real players than the ones you're targetting.

    If you're got an FC of 4 close friends and one of them leaves for another server... what then? That group of friends is now forced to add another character into their group just to keep the house.

    It also won't really help. Anyone who has put in the time and effort to make an FC, rank it up to 6, make enough Gil for a house, find an available house and actually buy it even with the housing timer... the four person requirement isn't really going to be much of an issue.

    They have two very easy options:

    A) Just create more characters. Any standard account allows 8 characters and applying to join an FC, even from the same service account, is very easy, even more so if the FC already has a house with a placard they can click.

    B) Buy some cheap copies of FFXIV Starter Edition and in the free 30 days create 8 characters and put them into whatever FCs they wanted. They could then just ignore the account/let it expire, but the character(s) would still remain in the FCs to keep the membership count up.

    So then you'd have to make sure the member count was using active members only and that just wouldn't work. Many smallers FCs would be at risk of losing their housing in content droughts such as right now where a lot of people are unsubbed until the expansion.
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  4. #14
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    It doesn't help that your idea was literally the worst idea ever and everyone you've suggested ever since has been short sighted and ill thought out.
    Thank you for proving my point.
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  5. #15
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    While your idea does sound good, in reality it would probably just punish more real players than the ones you're targetting.

    If you're got an FC of 4 close friends and one of them leaves for another server... what then? That group of friends is now forced to add another character into their group just to keep the house.

    It also won't really help. Anyone who has put in the time and effort to make an FC, rank it up to 6, make enough Gil for a house, find an available house and actually buy it even with the housing timer... the four person requirement isn't really going to be much of an issue.

    They have two very easy options:

    A) Just create more characters. Any standard account allows 8 characters and applying to join an FC, even from the same service account, is very easy, even more so if the FC already has a house with a placard they can click.

    B) Buy some cheap copies of FFXIV Starter Edition and in the free 30 days create 8 characters and put them into whatever FCs they wanted. They could then just ignore the account/let it expire, but the character(s) would still remain in the FCs to keep the membership count up.

    So then you'd have to make sure the member count was using active members only and that just wouldn't work. Many smallers FCs would be at risk of losing their housing in content droughts such as right now where a lot of people are unsubbed until the expansion.
    The problem we're facing is that the FC system is a bit too loose atm, and that's allowing people to accrue a bunch of land. I think that's an exploit, others disagree, YMMV.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    The problem we're facing is that the FC system is a bit too loose atm, and that's allowing people to accrue a bunch of land.
    Well right now SE allow 1 service account to own 9 houses on a world (1 personal and 8 FC - the temporary FC limitation was removed after only a week) so that's what SE have said is allowed. I know isn't what people want to hear, but the fact they actually removed the temporary FC limitations suggests that for Square Enix it is "working as intended".

    I don't know how much of a dent it'll make on other worlds, but on the world I'm on the 1440* extra houses added in 6.1 might actually be enough (small houses anyway), especially as they will probably be a new server per datacentre too, each with their own housing so that'll distribute people better too. We always have a few small houses available and whilst they have that invisible timer, everyone I know who's actively tried to get a house has managed to get one within a few days.

    *That's assuming they add the same number of wards as they have in the other housing areas right now. This figure will be higher if they add more wards everywhere.
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  7. #17
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    Bladehawk's Avatar
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    Konya-wa Hurricane
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    SE has told us Ishgard will have the same number of wards/plots as other housing zones. I did not see anything about new worlds other then the new dc in Australia and possibly again in 7.0. When you mention new worlds per dc is that from something you saw posted or just some hope on your part?
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  8. #18
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Small part of me kinda respect people cba to make new characters, form a fc and grind to rank 6 in order to buy a house, then to maintain them. That's alot of work, i assume.
    It's not a lot of work to reach rank 6. You only need to generate something like 100k company credits. That's very easy to do by turning in dungeon gear farmed solo unsynced or crafting HQ end game items then turning those in for seals.

    It is not a barrier to someone who wants to create a shell FC for getting a house with workshop. The only hard part is finding an available plot then winning the placard war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bladehawk View Post
    SE has told us Ishgard will have the same number of wards/plots as other housing zones. I did not see anything about new worlds other then the new dc in Australia and possibly again in 7.0. When you mention new worlds per dc is that from something you saw posted or just some hope on your part?
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0acb6c23ccd07f

    They want to add more worlds to accommodate the recent increase in the player base. The semiconductor shortage and COVID travel restrictions are hampering their ability to do it.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-10-2021 at 04:39 AM.

  9. #19
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    Thanks for the link jojoya. Perhaps they could get some used servers from blizzard cheap.
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  10. #20
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladehawk View Post
    Thanks for the link jojoya. Perhaps they could get some used servers from blizzard cheap.
    This made me laugh, thank you.
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